Are there any plans in the near future to sell a larger battery? I love the laptop so far but I find it keeps draining relatively quickly, despite configuring it to maintain battery-life when not plugged in.
Personally given how easy it is to upgrade and replace the laptop, I would be really interested in a battery for the laptop that surpasses the legal max capacity for airlines. if I ever decide to go on an airplane I can just swap the battery to the legally acceptable capacity.
A larger enough battery to make any meaningful difference in battery life (70Wh+) would not fit into the current chassis. Not sure even a 60Wh would. I think the best (and most modular) solution would be to purchase a cheap USB-C external battery pack, which can more-than-double the laptop’s battery life.
Yeah I already have a portable power pack, which is what I am using, but was just hoping for other solutions. my framework laptop usually lasts 5-6 hours on idle, maybe about 4 hours light use, and 2-3.5 hours when being used running an actual program, watching videos or running a piece of moderately intensive software.
make sure your battery settings didn’t bug out: this might be an option on this laptop it might not. right click the battery icon in the system tray, select “Power Options” which ever power plan you have selected, choose “Change plan settings” then choose “change advanced power settings” if you could send a screenshot of that window that would be great. some laptops don’t have all the advanced options and you are looking for the “Processor Power Management” drop-down. if the minimum processor state is 100% there’s your problem
I know the settings your talking about, and I have configured them slightly. The weird part is that some battery settings aren’t appearing there, despite appearing on my desktop I built. I’m attaching some screenshots.
For the users who want to tweak as many settings as possible I feel like I should share the script I’ve been ripping off for a while. This is for Windows only, Linux users should look at this thread here:
Back to the topic on hand, it took me a bit to find OG thread for the Windows thing. Here is the thread link and the powershell code below that. I saved it out as a .ps1 script to run from admin, but for the non-powershell users out there feel free to open powershell as admin and copy paste the script in and run from the terminal. Selecting everything into a 2 will make it show up in your advanced power options if the OS allows it. If it doesn’t work at all, remember to re run script as admin and it should work for you.
Edit: Thanks to @john_doe and @Tyler_Quinlivan for pointing out and fixing a bug with how the script gets pasted and formatted.
My old laptop seemed to glitch out later on in it’s life where the minimum processor state on battery was 100%. IDK why. I decreased the maximum processor state on battery to something like 65% on that old dual core and tiny 37Wh battery and I managed to get 5 hours of battery, which gave new life to the old dog for not a massive performance hit for the work I was doing. Definitely going to use this on my Framework when it comes in.
@Christopher_Doman That’s likely tied to thermal throttling. By default, Windows waits to see a processor state of 100% before going into turbo. That means a processor state of 99% can stop turboing from occuring (what I use on my work computer to stop it killing itself). When it turbos, the die generates way, way more heat than on base clock because it also pumps up current draw significantly. That likely led to your old laptop thermal throttling and aggressively downclocking. This would potentially look like it was going on the fritz every time it tried to aggressively boost. That can be rectified in software like you did (downclocking the CPU), or oftentimes without reducing performance by something as simple as taking apart the whole thing, cleaning out all the dust in the fans and heat sink, repasting the crusty old TIM on the CPU, and reassembling carefully. I would encourage you to give that a try on your old laptop - it sounds like you have a new framework coming in soon, and it’s a valuable skill for laptop owners . Really helps to extend the legs on old devices, and if it works, you could probably use your old machine as a backup, donate it to a good cause, or to a family member.
Short Story: Get at least a 30W (20V at 1.5A) USB-PD power bank. Most of them have a maximum 45W or 65W rating (20V at 2.25 or 3.25A), but make sure it have 20V output. Capacity is at least 10Ah and up to 30Ah (at 3.7V). Max capacity (allowed by aviation regulation) is 100WH, which is about 27Ah at 3.7V.
In 2013, Dell ship their 13 inch XPS with a 47WH battery. In 2018, this same 47 WH have upgraded to a 65WH. Battery technology improvement. Also, it’s a 7.4V, 4-cell battery (2series of 2 parallel), which is quite interesting because most other laptops run a high-voltage solution (e.g. 4 in series at 14.8V) or a large-cell 3-cell 11.1V approach.
The other half of the story, is that framework laptop battery is indeed quite small. Because they need to make room for all the slots for all the modules (external connectors included), which takes a toll on the amount of space the battery have.
I’m not sure how many WH is the battery, but a good guess is that it’s around 50WH rather than 60WH. And typically, a 99WH battery (limit is 100WH) can get you past 12 hours of office, which is way more than needed.
Tricks to reduce power consumption include dimming the display, sleeping the computer when not needed, turning off the display, closing unnecessary apps (and stop unnecessary background services), reduce memory speed (if possible), slowing the fans, make sure the CPU temp is low, etc.