Are there any plans in the near future to sell a larger battery? I love the laptop so far but I find it keeps draining relatively quickly, despite configuring it to maintain battery-life when not plugged in.
Personally given how easy it is to upgrade and replace the laptop, I would be really interested in a battery for the laptop that surpasses the legal max capacity for airlines. if I ever decide to go on an airplane I can just swap the battery to the legally acceptable capacity.
A larger enough battery to make any meaningful difference in battery life (70Wh+) would not fit into the current chassis. Not sure even a 60Wh would. I think the best (and most modular) solution would be to purchase a cheap USB-C external battery pack, which can more-than-double the laptop’s battery life.
This. This is the real beauty of USB C PD.
Another thing to consider is that by not soldering down components like RAM and storage there are power efficiency losses there.
I get 5-7 hours of real world use with mine, and that is MORE than enough given that this laptop is made to last and improvements will be coming down the road.
Yeah I already have a portable power pack, which is what I am using, but was just hoping for other solutions. my framework laptop usually lasts 5-6 hours on idle, maybe about 4 hours light use, and 2-3.5 hours when being used running an actual program, watching videos or running a piece of moderately intensive software.
4 hours of light use sounds low to me. I’d suggest taking a look at any background apps that are unintentionally causing the CPU to spin up.
Is the 4 hr light use on windows or linux?
Windows, and yeah I’ve been looking at background processes and nothing seems out of the ordinary
make sure your battery settings didn’t bug out: this might be an option on this laptop it might not. right click the battery icon in the system tray, select “Power Options” which ever power plan you have selected, choose “Change plan settings” then choose “change advanced power settings” if you could send a screenshot of that window that would be great. some laptops don’t have all the advanced options and you are looking for the “Processor Power Management” drop-down. if the minimum processor state is 100% there’s your problem
I know the settings your talking about, and I have configured them slightly. The weird part is that some battery settings aren’t appearing there, despite appearing on my desktop I built. I’m attaching some screenshots.
Those settings are hidden by default and you need to edit some registry entries to re-enable them. Here’s how to enable the “Minimum processor state” option (and here’s the one for maximum).
So in other words, I got stupid lucky on my ASUS laptop that this was just available from the start? thanks for the tweak instructions so I can find this again!
For the users who want to tweak as many settings as possible I feel like I should share the script I’ve been ripping off for a while. This is for Windows only, Linux users should look at this thread here:
Back to the topic on hand, it took me a bit to find OG thread for the Windows thing. Here is the thread link and the powershell code below that. I saved it out as a .ps1 script to run from admin, but for the non-powershell users out there feel free to open powershell as admin and copy paste the script in and run from the terminal. Selecting everything into a 2 will make it show up in your advanced power options if the OS allows it. If it doesn’t work at all, remember to re run script as admin and it should work for you.
https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/142867-missing-advanced-power-options-2.html
Edit: Thanks to @john_doe and @Tyler_Quinlivan for pointing out and fixing a bug with how the script gets pasted and formatted.
------------------------ script below ------------------------
Function Toggle-PowerSettingsVisibility {
$Title = 'Select option(s) to toggle visibility'
$PowerSettings = 'HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings'
@( [PSCustomObject]@{
Attributes = 0
PSChildName = '{ -- No Changes -- }'
Name = ' "Safety" row to clear selection'
} ) +
@( Get-ChildItem $PowerSettings -Recurse | ? Property -contains 'Attributes' | Get-ItemProperty |
Select Attributes, PSCHildName,
@{ N = 'Name' ; E = { $_.FriendlyName.Split(',')[-1] }} ) | Sort PSChildName |
Out-GridView -Passthru -Title $Title | ForEach {
$Splat = @{
Path = Resolve-Path "$PowerSettings\*\$($_.PSChildName)"
Name = 'Attributes'
Value = -bNot $_.Attributes -bAnd 0x0000003
}
Set-ItemProperty @Splat -Confirm
}
}
Toggle-PowerSettingsVisibility
@Freakous I highly recommend you try that script. You will be amazed how many things your desktop hasn’t enabled either.
My old laptop seemed to glitch out later on in it’s life where the minimum processor state on battery was 100%. IDK why. I decreased the maximum processor state on battery to something like 65% on that old dual core and tiny 37Wh battery and I managed to get 5 hours of battery, which gave new life to the old dog for not a massive performance hit for the work I was doing. Definitely going to use this on my Framework when it comes in.
@Christopher_Doman That’s likely tied to thermal throttling. By default, Windows waits to see a processor state of 100% before going into turbo. That means a processor state of 99% can stop turboing from occuring (what I use on my work computer to stop it killing itself). When it turbos, the die generates way, way more heat than on base clock because it also pumps up current draw significantly. That likely led to your old laptop thermal throttling and aggressively downclocking. This would potentially look like it was going on the fritz every time it tried to aggressively boost. That can be rectified in software like you did (downclocking the CPU), or oftentimes without reducing performance by something as simple as taking apart the whole thing, cleaning out all the dust in the fans and heat sink, repasting the crusty old TIM on the CPU, and reassembling carefully. I would encourage you to give that a try on your old laptop - it sounds like you have a new framework coming in soon, and it’s a valuable skill for laptop owners 
. Really helps to extend the legs on old devices, and if it works, you could probably use your old machine as a backup, donate it to a good cause, or to a family member.
If Line.dock gets their compatibility improved it could be an amazing option to go with the Framework.
@Frosty I’m having trouble running your script, i know little about PS , I’m not sure what to do here, and this is what error I get
Something is wrong with the formatting. I found the script on some website and had more luck. I’ll try to dig it up when I get home.
@john_doe Try this, worked for me on a desktop:
Function Toggle-PowerSettingsVisibility {
$Title = 'Select option(s) to toggle visibility'
$PowerSettings = 'HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings'
@( [PSCustomObject]@{
Attributes = 0
PSChildName = '{ -- No Changes -- }'
Name = ' "Safety" row to clear selection'
} ) +
@( Get-ChildItem $PowerSettings -Recurse | ? Property -contains 'Attributes' | Get-ItemProperty |
Select Attributes, PSCHildName,
@{ N = 'Name' ; E = { $_.FriendlyName.Split(',')[-1] }} ) | Sort PSChildName |
Out-GridView -Passthru -Title $Title | ForEach {
$Splat = @{
Path = Resolve-Path "$PowerSettings\*\$($_.PSChildName)"
Name = 'Attributes'
Value = -bNot $_.Attributes -bAnd 0x0000003
}
Set-ItemProperty @Splat -Confirm
}
}
Toggle-PowerSettingsVisibility
I think the issue was just that the comment markdown had borked some of the text by treating underlines as italics, etc.