Clearance would probably be your largest issue unless you plan on taking it off every time you shut the laptop.
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Just discovered Framework and am blown away by how much it changes the game. The sustainability/repairability and linux support alone are enough to make other brands feel uncompetitive, but just when I thought it couldnāt get any betterā¦ qmk on a laptop keyboard? Amazing.
That said, Iām really hoping alternative layouts gain traction. Massive spacebars are so wasteful.
While a full ortho would be ideal, if itās any easier to just take a standard layout and split up the spacebar into as many keys as possible, that would get me 90% of the way towards what I want.
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I understand that itās a very niche market for an ortholinear laptop keyboard, but weāre also the bunch whoās willing to pay a hefty price for it. The average price of an ergo ortholinear keyboard is above $200 for sure. And Iām willing to pay $500 (excluding the keyboard itself) just to have it installed. If someone is willing to install an ortholinear keyboard (preferably 3x5_3), please kindly DM me. Iāll immediately buy a framework and a compatible keyboard.
Iām so sick of using the regular laptop keyboard. I curse every time I have to put the acrylic sheet and then my chocofi on top of the laptop keyboard and connecting it and all the shenanigans just to use a decent keyboard that doesnāt hurt my wrists.
Thanks guys!
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The problem is that I donāt think any compatible keyboard exists. Someone could potentially create one, but the construction of laptop keyboards is challenging and expensive. In order to make them thin enough. And a lot of the most dedicated custom keyboard users seem to strongly prefer mechanical keyboards, to the point of feeling hatred for membrane laptop keyboards. So I think those two combined are the reason it doesnāt exist.
The Framework-16 I bet will overcome this though.
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Iām curious, is there any news on this? It seems like it might be doable to mod the hinges to gain some extra space for the keyboard.
Itād be awesome to use an ergonomic keyboard inside this laptop!
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Hello.
Thanks a lot for your interest.
I am personally more interested in an ergo keeb as plug in play as possible, without further modification to the FW13 beside the input cover.
As an alternative, I am looking into cutting a proper aluminium based for the keyboard like the original one, then build a custom membrane on top of it.
While I am at it, hello again @nrp .
I know you are probably quite busy handling the new models releases as well as the next points on FWās roadmap, but I was wondering if there was any update regarding the individual key switch development, now that the FW16 is out?
Best regards to all.
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Ah yeah I shouldāve said that Iām talking about the FL16.
Iād also love a mostly plug and play keyboard for the FL16, but Iām wondering if itād also be possible to create a detachable bluetooth keyboard. Thatād be insanely cool for on the go, but Iām not sure if itās possible. The batteries would probably fit easily on the sides, the harder problem is structural integrity and a nice mounting system. ZMK should be able to take care of the firmware and bluetooth part, so thatās nice.
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Iām curious if this is being pursued? Iām so used to my ergo dox that I just canāt do laptops any more, and Iām looking at the Voyager mentioned above.
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Hello Lee,
Thanks for the interested.
Progress is slow, but I am still working on prototyping a better base layout for the keyboard using CNC.
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If such a thing ever comes to pass I will teleport money into your wallet.
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Not mine, but a cool related project here: The mikefive, a Kailh PG1316 keyboard
The height is unfortunately 5mm, 1.3 mm short of the maximum clearance that the FW13 allows, but great to see some lower switch profiles.
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Those Kailh PG1316 switches look extremely similar to Cherry MX ULP 3.5mm switches. Once they are fully in production, I hope the Kailhs are easier to get than the Cherrys.
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I just picked up a Framework 16 for work and Iāve also been a ZSA Voyager user (Moonlander before that) since its release. Iād be over the moon for a new keyboard with an ortho layout, but Iām also not holding my breath for it (though Iād happily pay $500+ for one FYI). I would be ecstatic for JUST a flat layout that doesnāt have any keys and instead just has some magnets the Voyager can attach to. I donāt even need it to connect over pogo or anything fancy. Literally just a magnetic mount with no actual keys so I can keep the Voyager from slipping off while I move around. Iām fine with still needing a USB cable to connect with, I just want a fixed mount.
Iāve considered working out how to make a clamp of some kind with folding arms on a tripod ball mount. Then when I want to close the lid I can fold the arms up, put the lid down, and close the arms over the top of the lid. But I have absolutely no idea where Iād even begin with something like that. Anywho, love these ideas and I hope we get an ortho layout in the future!
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Also thought of this and beside design and building difficulties aside, I thought that it might be rough on the keyboard to keep it above the lid while putting it in my backpack.
Sharing the good news here too:
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