I want to completely disable the lid sensor such that the display is still on when the lid is closed and the laptop has no way of knowing if the lid is open or closed. As I understand it, the circuit for this feautre is part of the audio board with the audio jack. Would it be possible to accomplish this just by removing that daughter board? Alternateively, is there a way to entirely disable this Hall effect sensor in the BIOS?
I mainly run Windows and want to be able to take screenshots still while the laptop lid is closed and haven’t found a viable way to do this with any other brand of laptops yet – I just get all black pixels regardless of OS settings. And to be clear, I’m not talking about preventing laptop from going to sleep or hibernating, that part is easy, I want to continue screen capture while lid is fully closed, which adminittedly is an extremely rare use-case. This would also prevent windows from rearranging on a second display when I open or close the lid when a secondary display is attached.
Note: I don’t own a FW13 yet to test this out myself.
Help me understand you better.
Do you want the use the integrated screen while lid is closed? Like for screen capture?
Or do you want to add a external Display and take screenshots on that?
If you want to take screenshots when the lid is closed on another screen you can do it as usual (win + shift + s). I am using my FW13 as a “destop alternative” sometimes. so closing the lid and using another screen with external maus and keyboard. and taking screenshots or recording the screen works just fine.
If you want to use the screen normaly when closed there are alternatives. There is something called usbmmidd. With usbmmidd you can add a virtual monitor to the system. it behaves like a real screen would. So it is pretty much like closing the laptop but the screen is still on. But i still would be interested why you want to have the screen turned on when closed. You cant see the screen.
I have a FW13. I can see if i can find a solution to your problem.
No, but with an external display added, I’d like to be able to drag windows in to and out of the laptop’s display still.
That sounds intersting and I will look into it. It might satisfy most of my needs but the convience of quickly opening the lid and immediately switching back to working normally appeals to me, which this alternative might not accomplish.
It can still be viewed remotely with something like TeamViewer or AnyDesk.
Okay, and that will allow the system to still boot without any errors? What I am afraid of is that there’s some detection mechanism that would prevent this.
But speaking of disconnecting ribbon cables… If I never need to use the speaker, mic, or webcam, I can disconnect all those components and laptop will still work fine right?
This was a common accidental failure state for a bunch of folks’ mainboard swaps back when the first new models came out. The system will function entirely fine other than the audio jack and lid sensor.
??? You’re buying a whole laptop and intending to use maybe one of the ten mobility features it offers. You may benefit from buying a mainboard instead
Yeah you can do that (not just on frameworks). Sometimes they are on combo plugs so it’s not very convenient to do (looking at you lenovo putting the power button on the webcam connector on the x250/60/70 series XD).
If you still wanted to use the audio part of the audio board you could also really carefully tape over the lid sensor pins on the ribbon cable with capton tape, or just de-solder the hall sensor from the board XD.
I mean a laptop still has a bunch of features over a mainboard/mini pc outside of a webcam and speakers. Having a built in battery, keyboard and screen for one. Removing what you don’t want from something that mostly fits is often easier than adding what you want to something that doesn’t.
You can disconnect pretty much anything you want. Well, as long as it’s not both sticks of ram!
Framework sells a mainboard case, made by CoolerMaster, for anyone who wishes to use their mainboard for different purposes or reuse an older board after upgrading. There you’ll have no webcam, mic, speakers, keyboard, touchpad, display, battery or even the normal power button/fingerprint sensor (there is a alt power button). And the 3.5mm audio jack + lid sensor daughterboard is optional, there is a spot for it, but it’s not needed. Wifi/BT module is also optional. Disconnect away! Your Framework won’t care.
