Framework [Next Gen] Event is live on April 21

We’ve spent the last six years in Framework proving that it’s possible to build high-performance, thin, light computers that last longer and respect your rights through repairability, upgradeability, and customization. We’re happy to see repair rapidly becoming the norm rather than the exception, with even Apple of all companies embracing it on their latest notebook. I built this company specifically to reset and fix a broken industry. So, mission accomplished? Not quite. There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.

Memory, storage, silicon, and everything related to it is being consumed at unprecedented levels in a “winner takes all” race to an AI-first world in which access to compute is metered by the token. It’s clear that the fundamentals of computing and electronics have changed. The computer in the cloud has increasingly greater economic output than the computer in the hand. This means that to the extent that there are constraints on the supply that feeds both, the cloud will win every time. We see this in the rapidly rising costs of silicon and all of the devices that depend on it, the shift from ownership to subscription, and the rise of closed black boxes over an open ecosystem. What does this all mean? The industry is asking you to own nothing and be happy. Computers are no longer a bicycle for the mind. They are becoming the self-driving car that takes you directly to the destination.

You might be reading all of this and thinking, is this a farewell letter to personal computing? Is this the end of Framework? No, this is a manifesto. No matter how inevitable the AI-takes-all scenario may sound, as long as there is a person in the world who still wants to own their means of computation, we will be here to build the hardware that enables it. That means computers that you can own at the deepest level and do what you want with, whether that is choosing your OS, modifying your hardware, or even just keeping your data and computation local rather than leased from the cloud. We won’t get there all at once, but we will always be fighting for a future where you can own everything and be free.

Every step we take and every product we ship serves that goal. With that, we’re happy to announce that we have our next live launch event coming on April 21st at 10:30am PT in San Francisco. During the event, we’ll be streaming our announcements live to the Framework YouTube channel. You can subscribe and get notified when the stream goes live. We can’t wait for you to see what we’ve been working on.

These products are for you, so we’re opening a batch of invitations to the Framework Community so you can meet the team and get hands on with our newest products. Having community members at our event last year was a lot of fun, and we can’t wait for you to join us alongside press and partners. If you’re a Framework fan and are in the San Francisco area (or are able to handle your own travel to us), you can apply to attend in this sign-up form. We expect we’ll see a lot more interest than we have available seats in our venue, so don’t wait to get your application in.

We have one other update for you ahead of our launch event, which is that our products are now available to ship to four additional countries: New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland, and Singapore. You can start ordering everything we have in-stock now, though you may want to wait until the 21st to see what we’re announcing!
For a hint at what we’ll be announcing, head to the event page.

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Core Ultra 300 with LPCAMM2?

Then again, a pretty bad time to switch memory module types for people upgrading from previous boards.

I hope it’s more than just the Ryzen AI 400 refresh.

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Might be a partneship with CXMT with cheaper memory though. That said, it would be weird that Framework push people to change their already expansive and working ram for a brand new computer still using DDR5.

Maybe an intel panther lake version of the FL16 ? Last time they announced so many things x)

New Mainboards with USB-C Slots that all have the same capabilities (charging, screen connectivity) as required by M$? Would need additional hardware for routing signals and power, though, increasing complexity and cost :frowning:

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Would there even be a point of doing the 400 series refresh? It is just slightly higher clocks iirc.

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Is it finally time for the Framework Printer?

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I am pretty sure they will announce a new product, not just an update

Maybe a framework 14?

I would guess the white dots around the penguin could be miniled zones on display. So another possibility is something TV related

the penguin shows 4/13, the event is 4/21…

Usually in these events they have new products. So laptop refresh (16,13). I am thinking keyboard + a case like those for the RasPi that are a keyboard as well.

Also, follow the penguin, best guess is that it is something Linux related news too…

the 4/13 is when they are dropping another hint, possibly?

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Not really. Ryzen AI 400 seems like one of the most pointless CPU refreshes of all time. I’m just wondering for how long AMD will still supply AI 300 series chips.

If we take a look at the chips available in the current Framework 13 and compare them to their closest AI 400 equivalents, this is what we’d get:

  • AI 9 HX 370 (4C @5.1 GHz + 8c @3.3 GHz, 16 CUs @2900 MHz, 50 NPU TOPS) → AI 9 HX 470 (4C @5.2 GHz + 8c @3.3 GHz, 16 CUs @3100 MHz, 55 NPU TOPS) - so 100 MHz bump on the large CPU cores, 200 MHz GPU bump and a small NPU bump, but at least in the thermal and power envelope of the 13” Framework I don’t think these slightly higher clocks will be sustainable anyway
  • AI 7 350 (4C @5 GHz + 4c @3.5 GHz, 8 CUs @3000 MHz, 50 NPU TOPS) → AI 7 450 (4C @5.1 GHz + 4c @3.6 GHz, 8 CUs @3100 MHz, 50 NPU TOPS) - basically all clocks bumped by 100 MHz
  • AI 5 340 (3C @4.8 GHz + 3c @3.4 GHz, 4 CUs @2900 MHz, 50 NPU TOPS) → AI 5 435 (2C @4.5 GHz + 4c @3.4 GHz, 4 CUs @2800 MHz, 50 NPU TOPS) - no direct equivalent here so I chose the highest-end “Ryzen 5” part, and this would actually result in slower clocks and you’d actually lose a large core and trade it for a small core with half the cache and lower clocks; the AI 7 445 is identical to the AI 5 435 except for miniscule clock bumps

So for the lower-end parts this is actually a downgrade, and you’ll barely be able to tell the higher-end parts apart, even in benchmarks. Core Ultra 300 is the more desirable x86 series this year.

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Yeah, I’m betting on major revamp of an AI workstation or even rack server. Desktop/server CPU mainboard with LPCAMM2 or, even better, SOCAMM2 slots and several PCIE x16 for discrete GPUs.

Given all the memory craze we now experiencing, nothing technically prevents them from designing a mainboard with no soldered memory at all. You can buy minimal amount first and later expand it when (and if) it becomes cheaper. Since Framework is targeting geek audience if the first place, it makes total sense to sell computer hardware with no memory installed, thus mitigating the supply hell and yet delivering something new.

Also, local AI inference is really popular right now, I bet, Framework wasn’t expecting that level of demand for 128GB Desktop, so it’s quite natural to do it more. Free money basically.

All of this kinda matches their manifesto. All Matrix references are pointing to matrix multiplication which is the foundation algorithm for all modern AI/ML.

P.S.: Of course this is just my speculation. I would be more than happy to have a humble but oh so useful Framework printer :wink:

Penguin Def signals Linux.

Does anyone recognize the reference on the teaser page?

It definitely looks like a reference to some fiction or media

– Wake up, Dev…
– The Industry has you…
– Follow the white penguin!

The lines that appear on Neo’s screen near the beginning of “The Matrix” movie with some changes:
– Wake up, Neo
– The Matix has you…
– Follow the white rabbit!

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Other than some sort of obvious Linux related stuff I don’t get any hints. Matrix reference could be AI related.

I would hope for a Snapdragon board for the Framework 13, maybe an OpenWRT router, a NAS. Suppose that ain’t comming this event, tellig from the hints.

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Y’all gotta release some wallpapers with that ascii penguin and tractor for framework resolutions!

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It seems something for devs who has penguins. Then I guess an updates FW13 with Linux dev keyboard layout and with fast AI-chip.

I was going to place an order to upgrade my 16 mainboard the coming weekend, now I don’t know if I should wait. A so close upgrade from the previous seems to me very unlikely, considering how slow is the ‘throughput’ of upgrades. If any dev could give me a ‘suggestion’ whether to proceed or not, I would really appreciate.

I don’t think we’ll see a Framework 14 reveal, the difference from 13” is probably not worth the trouble of an additional product line.

One thing missing from Framework’s Linux push is a choice of distros to be pre-installed, which would presumably cover the officially supported ones. (If they additionally get HDMI CEC working, they could beat Valve to the market with a “Steam Machine”: FW Desktop with preinstalled Bazzite).

With regards to the whole “own the means of computation” part of the announcement, I’m hoping we will see nice spec bumps and fewer proprietary blobs, but I can’t come up with concrete predictions.

Hopefully, new top and bottom case options for the FW 13, more rigidity, and mechanical keyboard? Or, just total Hackers vibe with a fully transparent case option.

Hello,

Can’t wait to see what’s new.

I received my i3 12 DIY this morning which I ordered last week who looks very cool (Sage colour).

I just hope if you upgraded it on the specs side you can do something about it like an exchange or provided a free upgrade if the prices matched the old one of course.

My wife also ordered the same laptop 1 week before because we were pressed by the actual components crisis, but if we can get better specs for the same prices we would be very happy.