Framework supporting far-right racists?

And that person was promptly banned.

This thread has completely derailed from the original topic

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Yes we’re talking about Vaxry: Moderation leadership was changed by Vaxry, and those changes relating to banning transphobic comments wouldn’t happen if they weren’t endorsed by Vaxry.

It also has the implication (which ties back to the emphases I provided) that it isn’t in an area that is public in any way.

But I admit I am making that judgement based on past behavior I have seen.

Well, the three PR things I can thing of were the freight forwarding thing, the RTC battery bug and the smallest and least eventful thing which was framework promising a standalone mode that wasn’t available at launch.

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The original topic was mainly about DHH and Vaxry, so discussion surrounding the veracity of the claims against Vaxry is germane.

I would disagree, Vaxry = hyprland. Where is the digression?

okay so all things I’m aware of, not nearly as bad as this kerfuffle going on right now, gotcha.

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Then the ā€œapologyā€ post of relevance would be his on his blog, which is what I posted.

No, 100% not that I’ve seen. The hardware stuff is easy to defend if you try, and even AI stuff was very minor in comparison to this. This specific problem brings Framework into the ā€œpoliticalā€ PR framing, which genuinely sucks to deal with as an advocate. I stand behind the mission with my whole heart, obviously, but I’d struggle to recommend Framework if it got into ā€œoh, that companyā€, where it currently appears to be heading. That’s the difference.

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mostly true, I would agree. The freight forwarding thing and my personal pet peeve, the firmware issues, were significant. The firmware stuff at the very least got some attention from Ars.

Framework’s handling of this issue is very disappointing. Sorry, but I’m not staying in a ā€œbig tentā€ if white nationalists are also in it.

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My point was: The moderation leadership changes clearly show that Vaxry is committed to fighting any transphobia within his community. What more should we expect?

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I would personally disagree but that’s rather off topic so imma leave it there.

I would interpret it as ā€œtrying to save face for hyprland but continuing with similar general behavior as clearly demonstrated on his own blogā€.

But hey, thats just how I interpret it.

Nope, no personal attacks, enough of that

Can you point to a recent (as in 2025) transphobic comment in the hyprland Discord or any of the hyprland community spaces (Github, official X account, …) by the lead dev?

Can you point to any such behavior post that moderation change by the lead dev?

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… the blog posts I referenced?

The subsequent posts on other topics which always seem to come down to:

Shoving topics like ā€œGay Marriageā€, ā€œHiring practicesā€ or other currently-trending political debates into FOSS projects and forcing people to take a side is only destructive.

In a post supposedly about being constructive with criticism?

I’m at a loss for why you think I’m not being clear about my misgivings and the verifiable, directly linked reasons for that opinion.

my summary so far seems to be

vaxry admitted that he was dumb in that Twitter post, he then hosted a comfort check poll, seeming to refactor moderation as a result of discomfort, and having pretty good trans protective statements in the rules (per March 31st 2025 edit). Additionally I can’t recall any major incidents since that one… I’m trying to investigate further to see if things are better now but, so far, as a PRELIMINARY look at things mind you, things seem… Actually not bad now? The things I’m seeing indicate the leadership actually cares about trans people rather than hates them, especially since I see a lot of very outwardly trans people hang regularly in the community, notably, VERY active community members and contributors/donators.

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This is a neat idea.
I do agree there should be a set of terms to receive funding. Framework is special.

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