This is not intended for the community to comment on- because quite frankly, the community response to the post above gives me very, very little hope of “convincing” anyone that this behaviour is unacceptable
don’t care, didn’t ask
made this post for one reason and it wasn’t you
Exhibit A: a graph showing the clear results of a decade of Conservative police defunding decisions coupled with a pandemic dip. Not entirely sure how this supports whatever point you’re making, but you do you.
So everything that isn’t illegal must be tolerated as “merely an opinion”? What a naive take. Even showing Nazi symbols in support of National Socialism is legal in many countries, especially outside Europe.
Anyway, I had been considering to buy a Framework computer, because I need more RAM on my laptop (but can’t upgrade my current one) and prefer repairable and thus sustainable products. Now, however, I do not think that Framework would be the best choice anymore. Indirectly supporting right-wing conspiracy theorists and racists is not an option for me.
I second this idea. It would be nice to see framework turn this into a leadership moment.
A big tent REQUIRES that you exclude people who are harmful on a community level. You can’t build a big tent by including hateful people who drive others away.
Then stop responding. You made your post, you said your piece. You can now wait for the shower of likes on your post as evidence of the support you have or not. Further communication is not warranted nor produces any meaningful result
If this is your goal, then you might consider the venue. A message direct to Framework support would be more likely to reach that one person to the exclusion of all of the other people that the post was not for. Whereas posting in an open community forum is broadcasting it to everyone.
Framework 13 owner here. DHH is spouting great replacement theory (“demographic shift”) and equating being a native member of one’s country to their skin color (“it’s no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.”, and btw 59% of Londoners are native, just not white). This ethno-nationalism is unacceptable. Sorry to say as long as Framework continues to affirmatively support him, I cannot support them.
It’s because we’re not here for the show, we’re here because we care. 
I highly appreciate the contributions to this project. Awesome. It is generally a good idea to keep politics out of IT and open source. I don’t care about the political views of a founder of a technical project, nor do I care about their ethnicity, skin color, or anything else. That said, none of the people you are referring to are far-right racists.
Nirav, the “big tent” argument sounds good in theory, but in practice it becomes an excuse for moral cowardice. Open source was never meant to be a shield for bigotry or hate. When a company claims to stand for transparency and community, it cannot turn around and partner with people who openly promote racism and white supremacy. That is not neutrality. That is endorsement through silence.
You say Framework partners based only on alignment with open source goals, but when those partnerships include individuals like DHH or projects like Hyprland, you are signaling that ethics stop where technical convenience begins. You are telling your users that as long as the code compiles, it does not matter who is harmed by the person behind it. That is not a “big tent.” It is a hollow one.
Framework built trust by promising to do things differently, to value openness, responsibility, and community over corporate expedience. That promise means nothing if you hide behind neutrality while uplifting people whose views directly attack others in that same community. This is about politics. And It is also about integrity. You cannot claim to stand for openness while standing beside those who want to shut others out.
whereas sex is one of the few genuine binaries
of biology.
this is factually and demonstratably false. and doesn’t stop being false just becuase you found a famous person who said it … do i even need to say anything when your source is fucking “youtube.com” i can find transphobic grifters on there too, the other one does not infact show sex is a “binary” it talks about some random other group of people entirely.
intersex people exist, trans people exist no matter how much you don’t want them too, HRT physically changes your sex characteristics, (source: the outside world, looking at people; myself ) you can’t just discount that, in real biological science, when something doesn’t fit your theory you change your theroy, you don’t just insist that doesn’t exist,
this is merely more transphobic dogma that doesn’t align with the real world, just parroted by some other famous person ..
the difference with transracialism is actually primarily one of history* and more generally the fact that it isn’t actually a real thing and is just of transphobes who are also usually racist and other forms bigotry trying to ‘gotcha’ trans people, by trying to excuse doing blackface. not from an actual genuine desire to transition; its bad-faith bullshit, and usually is just getting mad for calling it out, and when it is an actual desire to transition; it’s also often met differently- and the key thing is; if you think that’s fine you should also think transgender people are fine, otherwise your just trying to excuse blackface- <3
btw; none of this excuses being overtly horrible to trans people and trying to take away their basic rights to self-identification or body-autonomy, and frankly i think your idea of right to repair is bullshit if it doesn’t extend to the right to repair and/or modify yourself its kinda the most important thing you could do that with,
anyway thanks for showing your true colors <3 makes it harder for those in the back to pretend everything is fine
usecase for sponsoring hyprland?
I’ve purchased two Framework laptops in the past two years, plus a spare motherboard and case, not to mention a bunch of accessories. I’ve also recommended Framework to people who’ve been looking for Linux-friendly computers.
This response about a “big tent” is deeply disappointing. Frankly, I would almost rather that Framework just come out and say “we’re totally OK with bigotry” than the non-response of “big tent”. It does not take a great deal to simply avoid endorsing projects or developers who actively embrace various forms of bigotry.
Extremely disappointed and unless this is reversed with some kind of amends made to trans communities (e.g., a healthy donation to the Trevor Project that outweighs what Framework has donated to or given in support to the projects that endorse anti-trans discrimination), I won’t be recommending Framework or buying new kit from you in the future. Perhaps that’s not a major blow to your bottom line, but I prefer to do my shopping in tents that refuse service to people who actively harm my friends, family, and strangers who are just living their lives without harming anyone.
usecase for promoting omarchy?
That feels like a weapon either side can wield. Can’t we just set it down? I’d much rather live in a civil world where shops catered to everyone without discrimination - whether on race, colour, genitals or beliefs.
WTF?!
