I highly appreciate the contributions to this project. Awesome. It is generally a good idea to keep politics out of IT and open source. I don’t care about the political views of a founder of a technical project, nor do I care about their ethnicity, skin color, or anything else. That said, none of the people you are referring to are far-right racists.
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Nirav, the “big tent” argument sounds good in theory, but in practice it becomes an excuse for moral cowardice. Open source was never meant to be a shield for bigotry or hate. When a company claims to stand for transparency and community, it cannot turn around and partner with people who openly promote racism and white supremacy. That is not neutrality. That is endorsement through silence.
You say Framework partners based only on alignment with open source goals, but when those partnerships include individuals like DHH or projects like Hyprland, you are signaling that ethics stop where technical convenience begins. You are telling your users that as long as the code compiles, it does not matter who is harmed by the person behind it. That is not a “big tent.” It is a hollow one.
Framework built trust by promising to do things differently, to value openness, responsibility, and community over corporate expedience. That promise means nothing if you hide behind neutrality while uplifting people whose views directly attack others in that same community. This is about politics. And It is also about integrity. You cannot claim to stand for openness while standing beside those who want to shut others out.
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usecase for sponsoring hyprland?
I’ve purchased two Framework laptops in the past two years, plus a spare motherboard and case, not to mention a bunch of accessories. I’ve also recommended Framework to people who’ve been looking for Linux-friendly computers.
This response about a “big tent” is deeply disappointing. Frankly, I would almost rather that Framework just come out and say “we’re totally OK with bigotry” than the non-response of “big tent”. It does not take a great deal to simply avoid endorsing projects or developers who actively embrace various forms of bigotry.
Extremely disappointed and unless this is reversed with some kind of amends made to trans communities (e.g., a healthy donation to the Trevor Project that outweighs what Framework has donated to or given in support to the projects that endorse anti-trans discrimination), I won’t be recommending Framework or buying new kit from you in the future. Perhaps that’s not a major blow to your bottom line, but I prefer to do my shopping in tents that refuse service to people who actively harm my friends, family, and strangers who are just living their lives without harming anyone.
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usecase for promoting omarchy?
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That feels like a weapon either side can wield. Can’t we just set it down? I’d much rather live in a civil world where shops catered to everyone without discrimination - whether on race, colour, genitals or beliefs.
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WTF?!
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Yeah, because all the evidence pointing out DHH considering, for example, non-whiteness to contradict britishness, are not good enough… you are putting up goal posts so close to each other that the ball does not fit between them. And that I cannot see as arguing in good faith. I am through with your sea lioning.
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If you let everyone in, including those that discriminate against people based on race or gender, you are making the space unsafe for those that the group you’re letting in is discriminating against.
You can’t welcome everyone, you can either include fascists, or you can include those whose lives are threatened by fascists.
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I love my framework 13, and i’m totally willing to forgive companies and communities that make mistakes and work to correct them, but i’m pretty disturbed by the response on this one.
I really hope things turn around. Alot of very unpleasant people in this thread making me think the problem is worse than I thought.
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This topic is temporarily closed for at least 4 hours due to a large number of community flags.
Posting here since the original thread got locked while I was writing my reply
I bought a framework 13 a few months ago and have been extremely happy with it. I have literally recommended it to a coworker looking for a new laptop yesterday. He decided not to buy it after seeing this news. I really hope framework walks this back because I want to buy your products, but unless this changes I’m going back to second hand thinkpads and I know of many other devs who are in the same boat. I don’t want to give money to a company who promotes projects like this.
On “purely technical merits”(a framing I disagree on) giving money to projects like these is creating a hostile environment where minority developers can’t feel safe/welcome, which is actively harmful to open source. See Asahi Lina quitting work on apple hardware for an extreme example.
Really hope you walk this back. Funding open source is good, but framework is not throwing money into a big bucket called open source, but selecting specific projects to shout out on twitter and give money to. You can do better. Your community wants to forgive you, it’s fine to make mistakes.
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I don’t think I’m going to give more money to the company that doesn’t respect human dignity.
I’m hoping they change their mind, and get off the enshittification train.
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I am cancelling my pre-order of FW 12 until an appropriate response is given by the Framework team: It is unacceptable to dismiss the concerns of the community when people are actively being harmed because of the leading individuals of some projects. I will reconsider my purchase when this is properly taken into consideration.
I support Framework as a platform for empowering people, and Framework’s investments and allies are by extension of my support, my investments and my allies. If there is a considerable agreement that some of these could be actively engaged in damaging the community, even if it is not directly through their work, but by misusing their platforms, we need to renegotiate.
Just saying “big tent” and “we cannot have a proper conversation over here“ is not enough
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Thanks for taking the time of putting this here, I agree, and I want to see a careful stance taken by the Framework team in order to re-evaluate my financial support for them.
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valid point, but i doubt these are statistics kept by their support team, whereas their community team is heavily active, enough so for Nirav himself to have responded to the original post
you might be right, this just seemed like the best place for action
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i know i said i didn’t make this for community interaction, and i still urge that everyone here go make their own posts the same way i did because it doesnt matter what the community thinks about what i had to say
but i have to say i’m pleasantly surprised by the positive response here regardless, i expected way more hate and i ended up seeing an upturn in disappointment even in the original thread by anarcat
thanks yall 
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Thank you for posting this. I was also a big fan of Framework until this extremely disturbing decision to sponsor and promote a far-right racist’s pet project. My Framework 13 is great and I’ve been recommending Framework to people, and Framework was near the top of my list for my next desktop machine, but there’s absolutely no way I’m going to recommend or buy anything from Framework as long as they maintain an endorsement of people who advocate violence and human rights abuses against people like me.
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I would like to mirror the action of some of the other community members here, and ask for an appropriate response to our concern regarding the discussion following the public announcement of Framework’s sponsoring of Hyprland, and encourage other caring users to do a similar thing in order to express that this is important for their community in order to keep supporting the nice work that Framework does.
Original post now locked:
Other community member post describing the issue.
and mirroring here my initial comment that couldn’t be posted on the original post:
“I am cancelling my pre-order of FW 12 until an appropriate response is given by the Framework team: It is unacceptable to dismiss the concerns of the community when people are actively being harmed because of the leading individuals of some projects. I will reconsider my purchase when this is properly taken into consideration.
I support Framework as a platform for empowering people, and Framework’s investments and allies are by extension of my support, my investments and my allies. If there is a considerable agreement that some of these could be actively engaged in damaging the community, even if it is not directly through their work, but by misusing their platforms, we need to renegotiate.
Just saying “big tent” and “we cannot have a proper conversation over here“ is not enough”
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