Out of curiousity could someone answer how accurate wear is?
Also wear to my knowledge is hard to calibrate correctly.
Not accurate. At the end of the day, what you really / actually care about is how long you can use your laptop for, per charge. That’s what really matters. Wear level is just a rough guesstimation.
It’s like…mileage of a car…it’s not exact…and what really matters is you want to know if your car will crap out on you, and how much it’ll cost to fix the issue. Mileage is just a rough indicator of likelihood of potential issue.
Or age of a person…you get the idea…
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After 6 cycles mine is at 96%
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Batteries never come with no wear, that’s around the percentage most people start with so don’t worry.
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Technically true because they are at least charged (once or more) at the factory.
However, a lot of the time, a [good] new battery would be able get a full charge capacity anywhere between 1-5% above designed capacity. My Framework laptop was able to get a full charge about 1% above the designed capacity for the first 5-8 cycles.
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I joined this thread not so much to mention my battery wear but to comment on the fact that replacement batteries are still not available to buy 15 months after the first computers were shipped. That is incredibly poor logistics.
Mine is at 12% wear after use since February of this year.
Win10 Pro Batch 6 11th gen here.
I used it fully on-charge at no cap for a month or so, capped at 80 and fully on-charge for around six months, and then the past few months back at no cap with daily on-battery use.
SleepStudy says my effective capacity is 94%, so I’m very impressed. I typically get 6 hours of note taking/web browsing and then charge it back up for some more use before leaving it charging overnight. The battery life itself has been pretty consistent in that respect, but I’d still be first in line to buy a drop-in battery upgrade.
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So my battery wear has taken a pretty drastic turn the past few months. My batch 4 1135 running Win 11 went from 4% to 2% from last October to this August, but the end of September gave me 7%, which I think is fine and within likely error, but today it checked in at 12.1%. I did a calibration 5%-100% charge the last few checks to try to be consistent. Anyone else have “sudden” wear like this?
I haven’t checked on a consistent basis like @anon81945988 and can’t say how many cycles I’ve been through, but my use (4-6 hours on battery workdays) hasn’t changed drastically.
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I’ve got around 3% wear on the first 4 days of my usage.
Set my MaxCharge to 80% and let the power be plugged in the whole day.
This is probably to be expected. More to come.
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I have an 11th gen framework from 11/2021(1.25 years old). My battery stats are:
- 80 cycles
- capacity of 96.0246%
- BIOS charge capped at 80%
It’s on 24x7, and most of the time it’s plugged in. The usage is mostly light(web browsing/text editing/email) a couple hours a day.
Everything seems fine so far. I surely worry about the battery far more than I need to. Especially considering it’s so inexpensive and easy to replace if there’s ever a problem with it.
I took the battery out of the laptop to look for a manufacturing date on the bottom(I couldn’t find one). It was securely held in with screws and plastic tabs instead of god awful adhesive. The screws were numbered and captive(impossible to loose). It’s hard to imagine a significantly more user friendly experience!
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12th gen i7-1260p here.
After 4 months (received 13 Oct. '22) my battery capacity is currently reading as 98.5162%.
Only 9 charge cycles used.
Plugged into mains power > 95% of the time.
Charge limited in UEFI settings menu to 65%.
In the first week to 10 days I used it regularly off mains power and was charging it to 100 %; within the first week the battery capacity dropped to about 94.5%.
I did a bit of reading up on the battery here and did a couple of full discharge/recharge cycles and set the charge limit in the UEFI settings. Since then the laptop is rarely used off mains power and with the 65% charge limit the capacity reading has climbed back to about were it was when first used at about 98.5%.
The battery seems to be doing fine so far.
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11th gen i5-1135G7 model here
Got mine in September 2022, haven’t used it a ton due to motherboard issues, got it replaced once and it was out of use for about 2 weeks.
180 cycles in using a 45W Samsung charger and my battery health is currently reporting 87% capacity. Or 47986mWh / 55009 mWh with a 12.8% wear level.
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12th Gen i7-1260p. I’ve found that the indicated battery wear is completely inaccurate. It goes up to 10% or so when gaming, and drops back down to 2% when idling. Currently indicating 4% while I’m typing this.
Part of the reason is that it seems to miscalculate battery wear when the laptop is drawing more power than what the charger can provide.
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I have had a Pixelbook for 4 1/2 years. When I first got it I researched this
question but found no decisive answer as to constant vs nonconstant
charging, so I keep my computer charging during the day and off at night.
After 853 cycles the battery health is 79%. The length of retaining a charge
when not plugged in has dropped somewhat, but has never been an issue
for me. When the battery dies, I intend to replace it or buy a Framework.
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Both the battery health and wear counts are inaccurate so there is no real use in graphing it as it may cause fear to newcomers thinking that the batteries are very low quality.
After a bit more than 1 year of ownership used mostly plugged in with a 75% charge limit I’m down to 90.3% capacity. My reported cycles are 104 but my cycles were stuck for some time so it is hard to estimate that accurately but I would put them closer to 120 than 104.
I have not done a full charge very recently but I will try that and see how much this value changes.
I don’t have records of the initial capacity however I remember it was below 100% (54.XX Wh). I have a record two months after purchase with a value of 98.4%, 9 days later 97.3% and 40 days after that 97.1%.
Edit: Seems I made a prior post before forgetting my OOTB value.
Let’s see if I’m wrong and in 2 months time have fallen below the 80% mark did I get a bad battery or is the charge limit behaviour causing some degradation? I’m very carefuly to not stress the battery with heat or deep cycles/fully charging it… My old iphone 3GS had 86% after 500 cycles…
Well 4 full cycles later and now I’m down to 88.0% 