I have no problem with people criticizing the company but OP has stated before on another thread that they believe FW is a company that wont last/have no future so it seems to me they have already made up their mind about this so I really dont see why they keep making these types of comments/posts
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The keyboard/screen flex are clearly going to be two of the things we hear ad nauseum about this machine as more people get their hands on it. Obviously, not something that will bother every user, but both long considered to be an effective (albeit over simplistic) benchmark of laptop quality and construction.
When you think about designing a modular/repairable laptop though, there are just certain areas that you have no choice but to sacrifice in. You canât realistically expect a machine in which everything is user replaceable to have the same rigidity of something with unibody construction and everything glued together. Itâs a much easier equation when you can disregard serviceability entirely.
Iâm sure Framework had specific weight/size limits they didnât want to exceed, and itâs already a pretty large/heavy 16" laptop in this performance category. It makes perfect sense to me that sacrifices like this were necessary evils. Hopefully theyâand the communityâcan come up with some first/third party work arounds for the keyboard flex at least that donât add too much weight.
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For those who arenât aware, Framework provides files to print a âdummyâ expansion card on their github, otherwise there are some community projects like Xenocowâs SNCK Drawer to fill empty expansion slots.
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Far easier to just fill it with USB-C ports. Not like thereâs a noticeable weight or power saving! If youâre spending $1600+ on a laptop, $9 is inconsequential.
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Well. It is the first year production run. That is the price of being one of the first adopters. Some quirks and problems that need, and will be addressed. They always did in the past, which is respectable. Framework is a small company. I am impressed they made it this far, in such a short time, and with so little money in comparison to manufacturers like Lenovo, or ASUS. And even they make products with some quirksâŚbut because they churn out a new product every year, they probably will not do anything to correct it, if it isn´t catastrophic, and smells of a class action lawsuit. As mentioned before, buying some more USB-C or A modules is so cheap in comparison, that ordering a few for reserve is a no brainer. The keyboard flex can be resolved DIY with the LTT version of using some pads underneath the keyboard. And in the production, by adding some more material to the mid plate or grooving to add rigidity (and with the thick pads used by Linux, it is quite obvious, that there is room to add material or grooving). The stiffness of the closing cover is the result of using a magnetic bezel. It would be rigid if glued together (that is how you get the thin and rigid covers). But that would defeat the purpose. And a few years back almost all the laptops had such âflexibleâ closing coversâŚand more. I could show you my 10 years old Lenovo laptop I still have in a drawer at work. Never succeeded to break a display on those back in the day. But maybe half a millimetre of material could help, or a change in the construction⌠Well it is a premium products, but you pay for the modularity, not directly for the good looks. And there is the aspect of small production numbers, which makes the manufacturing more expensive. Hence the higher price. It is like buying hand made shoes. Expensive. But I think still worth the investment. Hope all gets sorted, and maybe replaced by FW for free or a good discount (it is inconvenient, but still fully functional). If I were FW, I would replace those parts that need to be improved for free, to the early adopters. Would be fair.
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I suppose you are talking about the flex of the display? Many possible reasons why the display isnât quite as rigid as on some other machines were discussed in your other thread about screen flex.
Iâm curious what you would be willing to consider as a âfixâ Framework could implement. For instance, would you be okay with a thicker, machined aluminum top that added thickness, weight and cost? Would you prefer if the bezel was glued in place? Iâm genuinely curious as to your thoughts on this. This is the second time (at least) that youâve brought this up as an issue that you see as âneedingâ to be fixed. So Iâm curious what youâre thoughts are on how they should improve the display rigidity.
Framework has said they are looking into this issue.
Do you have any specifics about how you feel the FW 16 falls short and how it should be improved? I know you linked some videos, but what do you see as the specific issues that you feel should be fixed?
A dummy expansion card might be unnecessary for most people but maybe I could give designing one a shot. Because why not? Might be a while before I make it though depending on my free time or if I want to design it. If I do. Iâll make sure to post it 
Thatâs what I was thinking initially when I started configuring DIY set. And after considering it came to the conclusion that was already presented here: no real benefit. Extra USB-C ports will be better. Empty card can be printed if needed. And eventually Iâve selected more cards than there are ports to actually experience the freedom customizable ports offer.
Iâve just checked the configuration page for order - in Pre-built configuration you start with 6 USB-C expansion cards. For DIY you get what you select and I like it. Not sure if thatâs how it was from the start though.
Hm. FW doesnât have blank/empty cards for custom/DIY projects, do they? Itâd be nice to have the more solid aluminum shell available to make my own cards from, if I go that route for anything. 3D printed is fine, but for a given strength definitely needs some extra thickness which can cut down on internal area.
The screen flex seems less than I expected, the keyboard flex seems too much though. I would definitely fiddle with the spacer wobbling, but the tolerance of everything else seems fine to what I can see.
They do have 3D printer models in their github
Anyone without a 3D printer can use a service to have them printed, such as craftcloud3d.com.
Or you can just buy a SNACK drawer.
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Thanks, will check out the specs and cadd one up 
You could also download the free version I made! It is just a closed off version of the provided model with the latching lugs increased in material. So, a blank card.
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Cool, thnaks! Moooo!
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