Just now saw this. GLAD I got a FW 16 with AMD now…
Intel CPUs have been failing all over the world. But why? In this video, we talk about two major issues with the 13th and 14th generation of CPUs.
The oxidation issue only affects these CPUs apparently (but only early ones off the production line. Intel have not published which dates the bad ones are):
i9-13900T
i9-13900
i9-13900F
i9-13900K
i9-13900KF
i7-13700K
i7-13700KF
i7-13700
i7-13700T
i5-13600K
i5-13600KF
Other 13th/14th gen chips that have >65W
Intel’s CPU instability and crashing issues also impact mainstream 65W and higher ‘non-K’ models.
None of those are the FW13 Gen13 mainboards. There are no Intel FW16.
FW13 Intel Gen 13:
i5-1340P
i7-1360P
i7-1370P
So, none of the FW laptops have oxidation issues as they are all <65W.
As to which CPUs have the microcode causing over-voltage instability issues, I don’t know which ones they are.
Intel don’t seem to be very accurate with the information about this that they publish so the above may need corrections later.
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“Hey bob, did you put the factory microcode back after you were doing playing racecar with the test processors? I think they pushed the code changes to production last week”
spits out coffee
“They sent THAT code to production? This is going to be up there with my brother who forgot to bolt down the $500,000,000 satellite that fell over at NASA.”
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Intel are being somewhat short sighted with their approach to this. I don’t think many people are going purchase intel cpus if it takes so long for intel to admit something is wrong, and even then give no specifics as to what is wrong so customers cannot even come up with their own solutions to the problem.
For example, if it is due to a bug in the microcode, tell us which cpu instructions are affected so we can write code that avoids those instructions.
For example, it would be quite easy to adjust the CLANG/LLVM compiler to avoid certain instructions for a particular cpu target.
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As a 13900K owner, the odds I buy anything from Intel again before dying have got to be worse than 50/50 by now.
I mean, do I just throw this piece of trash in the trash immediately? Or do I cross my fingers and hope that it’s not doing anything bad to any data I care about.
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To add in my two cents I had a laptop with a 13700H in it and I was getting some of the errors that Wendell at Level1Techs was discussing, particularly the one with getting crashes about “not enough video memory” being associated with 13th and 14th gen Intel.
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The 13700H can use up to 115W so that is above the less than 65W unaffected cpus. I.e. Intel say your cpu IS affected by the problem. It will be fun to see how intel go about RMA a laptop cpu soldered to the mainboard!
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Some more interesting tidbits that may or may not be related…
Intel is laying off over 15,000 employees and will stop ‘non-essential work’
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In addition to cutting 15000 employees (about 10-15%) Intel also cutting share dividends and their share price is down about 25%
Hard times ahead for intel me thinks.
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Nice to meet you and thank you for the info; by the way, I have a 1340P CPU, which has a max turbo TDP of 64W. Are you 100% sure that it’s not affected by current problems? Do you have a plausible explanation on why a 13th gen Intel CPU with a TDP of 65W is affected and a 13th gen Intel CPU with a TDP of 64W is not?
Thank you all very much in advance for clarifying!