It's 2025 and there's still not an option for an OLED screen for the framework 13 & 16! This is madness!

With an OLED panel and poor battery life, you would end up with a review like this, for example:

Which did significantly better in the battery test than the lcd ryzen ai framework 13 so not sure what the point is there. At least it’ll guzzle power and look good doing so XD.

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Honestly, OLED panels are probably unlikely to come to framework laptops, and probably going to be outdated technology for laptops and tv in the next 10yrs or so. QD-EL panels are coming for OLED’s contrast throne and has the potential to be cheaper due to manufactured via ink jet printing. So if they were to pick one for a better screen, I’d prefer they put the resources in that direction

I missed giving the 2nd link, sorry.

Here, take this comparison (Thinkpad to Thinkpad, AMD to AMD…though different gen. Very similar chassis P14s vs T14s):

Specifically, “power saving screen” and “long battery life”…no OLED.

Granted, in some Framework Laptop reviews from Notebookcheck, they did say / complain there’s no OLED option in the verdict section as “Con”. But the balance has to be there with battery runtime coming in first, then OLED later. A laptop is a mobile computer first, core feature is compute on the go.

If we take the 2025 as a point-in-time technological expectation for OLED. Then I would also take 2018 should have 7 hr+ Youtube video playback, meaning in 2021 for FL13 11th gen, Youtube video playback should have been 8.5 hr+, as an example.

(2018: i7-8550u H264 playback, 566 minutes: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2018 (WQHD HDR, i7) Laptop Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews)

(2017: i7-7500u H264 playback, 711 minutes: Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2017 (Core i7, Full-HD) Laptop Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews)

Take the wifi 1.3 tests:

Average wifi 1.3 tests for 1240p, 1260p and 1280p laptops between 13.00 and 14.00 inch display size:

There is some discussion of carbon fibre (used in black ThinkPads) elsewhere on the forum.

Why? It seems to me that you don’t have a clue about the processes involved in anodizing and how damaging they can be to the environment, and hence maybe it is you that is talking crap. The colour on the outside doesn’t affect the performance on the inside, or maybe you just can’t do without racing stripes?

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If you really want a black or whatever color laptop, dbrand does make skins for these laptops, but I agree 100% about the OLED screen. I will absolutely be buying one for my 13 when they finally release one.

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I just bought a Framework 13. The keyboard and the display on it suck. How as a laptop company can you botch the 2 areas where the user actually interfaces with the product? I’m floored. Just insane. They must have got a bargain on cheap matt displays and thought “hey, if we compromise on the quality of this product we can make a good buck.” Crazy.

If it doesn’t meet your expectations you can return it within 30 days and get something that better fits what you are looking for.

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agreed, OLED or AMOLED as options would be nice. this is pretty much the only reason i went with the lenovo Legion Pro 7i 5080 over a framework, tuxedo or sys76 laptop, as much as i would prefer to have purchased from those manufacturers over something like lenovo. please consider having OLED as an option

as for some of the criticism levied at OLED itt, i don’t think they hold any water these days. i used OLED or AMOLED on everything and i vastly prefer it, and notice little to no differences in battery life, at least that are substantial enough to notice.

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Framework is currently at an inescapable disadvantage on battery life because of the use of socketed DDR5 memory, or socketed DDR4 on older models. They can’t use LPDDR5x or LPDDR4x because those types of memory have to be soldered to the mainboard; they operate at super-low voltages that aren’t compatible with sockets. (The noise margins would be too small for the memory to work reliably.) LPCAMM2 might work, but it’s a new standard and availability is poor.

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I use my FW through a dock permanently, so I couldn’t care less about what screen it uses. The only time I’m stuck using the screen is when I’m stuck in hotels or some situation, and I need to get work done. Otherwise, why would I want to look at any laptop screen? An OLED screen or any other instance such as that doesn’t justify my use-case with the extra costs. If an AMOLED or OLED option should ever be introduced, do it as a premium option for 1% of people that need nice screens and 30 hour battery life while they boat from easter island.

you’re intentionally ignoring that it would be an option, if you don’t want it you can pick the lcd version