Does that mean Framework has been aware of this battery drain issue all this time, and the rechargeable button cell was put in place as a ‘workaround’? And now that Framework ‘improved’ the reset mechanism means this drain button cell drain isn’t hasn’t be resolved?
In that case, the ‘indication’ that the issue is really fixed is when we see the board can be used with a non-rechargeable button cell battery?
That doesn’t make sense, although I follow the logic. I would have thought the idea was to have a more ‘sustainable’ battery but the charging mechanism is not up to it use ~ not that it should be ‘used’ much.
For example I wonder what the capacity of a ‘normal’ RTC cell is and the rechargable one.
How can such a battery be drained in a few weeks, according to anecdotal evidence. From years to weeks ???
No one knows what they were thinking… So it was a question.
Just received this from support:
“We rectified this issue in our most recent firmware update, and it should no longer be an issue if you’ve previously done so. If you haven’t already, we recommend that you upgrade the firmware. You can follow this guide: Framework Laptop BIOS and Driver Releases”
The thing is, I already had 3.07 installed, so, that doesn’t fix the issue at all. I updated to 3.08 yesterday, I’ll see how that goes. Not holding out much hope though.
Thanks but ‘this issue’ isn’t defined as it relates to your question and how they interpreted that.
‘Most recent’ is that the 3.07 official or the 3.08 ??
The answer they gave relates to the question/issue I asked about battery drain and need for removal to reset the laptop. They didn’t go into any detail about what causes the issue exactly.
The link they gave takes you to a page with bios v 3.07 and a description that the issue of battery drain is resolved with v 3.07. v3.08 is still in beta, not officially released.
There is more here: Laptop Not Powering on With BIOS 3.07
Well if that’s the case then I am relieved, though as I have it plugged most days I won’t force the issue, and won’t be testing 
3 days ago
If you read my posts you can see I’ve had bios v3.07 installed, and it hasn’t resolved the issue.
So I pulled my laptop out of my bag and tried to turn it on to no avail.
I plugged in the power and it turned on right away, I unplugged power turned it of and tried again and it powered without the power plugged in (the battery has 71% on it). Figured that was a fluke but now it has done the same thing 2 more times in a row since then. In other words I need power every time after it has sat for a day or so.
Any thoughts?
Yes there’s been quite a talk about this.
By the way do you have the 3.07 BIOS update?
Yes, it’s version 3.07. I have tried a different order of things to see if can figure it out but no.
Right, a somewhat definitive answer from support that suggests this will always be a problem.
"The RTC battery can get drained when the computer is not in use and is not plugged into the charger. The RTC battery will last a maximum of 2-3 weeks in this state before being drained below a level where it can function properly.
The battery powers the real-time clock of the mainboard’s chip that wakes up the circuitry and is responsible for holding the status of the circuitry while it is turned off as well. That means that when the laptop is completely off, the RTC battery is continuously used by the MB circuitry and gets drained of its stored power.
With the RTC battery in a drained state, the RTC needs to be removed for at least 15 minutes and then placed back in (after the trickle charge of at least 24hrs). Removing the battery allows it to rest from the continuous drain placed on it by the MB circuitry. It can recover some of its charges to a minimal level where it can function and allow the laptop to be powered up and booted again. At this point, the laptop will need to be charged continuously for at least 24 hours for the RTC battery to regain a full state of charge.
The difference between rechargeable & non-rechargeable RTC batteries is their chemical compositions & their physical sizes depending on the motherboard that it is meant for.
The reason why we use the rechargeable one is that it inclines with our principle of reducing e-waste & be sustainable for our environment."
A design issue? To me, definitely. So, it seems, the only way around this is to upgrade to a 12th gen mainboard. Make of it what you will.
Now I can see why people have a problem. Thanks for the detail.
There could have been a warning in the specs. Do not leave unattended for 2 weeks 
And of course for some slow deliveries it’s a worry for new users who have no idea of what is going on. Very sad
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The reasoning, saving energy in throwaway batteries is highly questionable.
It all seems a huge expense and cost to human suffering and the consequential need to mitigate. I need a drink just thinking of it and now I may have sleepness nights wondering if I’ve slept too long.
OH! and no doubt as the battery ages the 2 to 3 weeks will become 2 to 3 days.
When I get over how upset I find this, in few weeks maybe, I’l; consider sending Framework a ‘letter’ of dissapointment.
I still don’t understand why a CMOS battery would experience such a high level of drain. It won’t even last longer because of the repeated charge/discharge cycles. This problem, in effect, makes the laptop semi productive. I still think Framework should make some real offers of redress. Swapping boards at half price is an option that I would accept, although people would still be out of pocket. I really want to support this company, but they should have made sure this kind of thing wasn’t an issue before production.
Exactly ?? I’m pretty sure I will ‘write’ to them it’s seems non-sensicle and I hope there’s a workaround. 
?? can’t we have wishes without the begging nature.
There must be a solution other than changing boards.
I’ll have to read all the posts again, I’m not clear, as at some point there is the statement that ‘the battery drain’ has been resolved . I then suppose this is the main battery.
You’d hope so. But, if the boards are designed a certain way and you can’t stop the RTC battery from draining below a certain level, I don’t see how.
This suggests to me that it is predominantly a hardware issue.
The really annoying thing is that, obviously, these forums are monitored, a lot of users are facing this issue, and framework seem to be completely ducking the issue as though it’s not their problem.
I haven’t seen any official response.
It is rather concerning that Framework hasn’t come out with a general statement regarding this issue. Back when I contacted support about my “excessive battery drain when completely shut down issue”, all I got was a “this is normal, sorry about your luck” email.
They really need to step up, and make some kind of statement, be it good, bad, or otherwise.
P.S. Despite this issue, my Framework laptop is hands-down my favorite laptop I’ve ever owned, and I’ve been a software engineer for 30+ years now. If they can just improve the battery drain issue, I’ll be a happy camper and tell everyone I know how great Framework products are.