Which release version? LTS
(if rolling release without a release version, skip this question)
(If rolling release, last date updated?)
Which kernel are you using? 6.17
Which BIOS version are you using? what comes with the notebook
Which Framework Laptop 13 model are you using? (AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series, AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series, Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 1, 13th Gen Intel® Core™ , 12th Gen Intel® Core™, 11th Gen Intel® Core™) AMD Ryzen AI300 Series
I have a few questions: I used popos in a vm years ago. Now I got my new framework 13 and installed it. Worked ok.
I could not find the fingerprint sensor to work. I have seen some posts but years ago. So not sure.
Also, to me it seems that pop!os has removed lots of the settings from former times. connectivity check, privacy and much more. Has anyone an idea, how to get this back or working?
Thanks
Great to be part of the community and will try to help when I am fully set up
hi, thanks for the quick reply. It is less about the desktop, I like cosmic. But more about the underlying privacy and security features which seemed to have vanised. Fedora I am not a fan of dnf. So maybe, Ubuntu will be my final setup, but I still want to try to go along with pop.
Whilst COSMIC has been released, it’s still very much missing a lot of features that are slowly being added over time. I think Epoch 2 is going to add a bunch of features, whether privacy settings is on the cards, I don’t know. But it’s not mentioned here at least COSMIC Epoch 2 and 3 Roadmap - System76 Blog
Which privacy and security features are you looking for? I’d also recommend Ubuntu 26.04, or if you want DEB packages and no snaps then maybe Debian 13? Both have more recent packages than Pop!_OS 24.04.
I dont understand they are apart? Where do I find the privacy settings, e.g. the connectivity check? I do not want to learn anything using the terminal, I am a mac user for 30 years.
I liked Debian some time ago, but I had issues while installing, with Wifi drivers. And Debian is not mentioned as an official Linux, if I recall correctly. So it looks like Ubuntu eventually
*“a part”, as in they are packaged with the desktop environment, sorry for the typo.
Systemd is a rabbit hole way beyond the terminal, which I’m fairly comfortable with. But I would never touch systemd, unless i was paid to.
pop!_os used to use Gnome, the same as Ubuntu. I would strongly recommend Ubunto if you like Gnome, what pop!_os used to be, and you don’t want to touch the terminal. Even with Ubuntu you will be guided to use the terminal by support if you have certain issues, while troubleshooting.
The terminal is an awesome utility if you are wiling to learn.
Because I liked it before. Bazzite seems to be for gamers, which I am not. Fedora I heard good things, besides dnf. I am most familiar with Ubuntu, runs in a VM for me.
Thanks. I grew up with vi and interactive unix and bsd, even a bit of SCO. I wrote code in the late 80s for various unix systems, using x-windows, motif and sometimes “Looking Glass”. I loved looking glass.
I helped porting gnu tools to Linux in the early 90s. I am very familiar with the terminal, I still write bash scripts and much more. But I dont want to… I am too old for this … I believe in 2026, not every answer should be: Open terminal. Sudo apt update, sudo apt upgrade … So maybe it is ubuntu then. I didnt expect system76 to screw pop!os up so badly…
They haven’t screwed anything up. They decided to no longer carry a bunch of fixes or custom changes to GNOME and wrote their own DE. The team isn’t so big to be able to support both custom patches and writing their own DE so they scrapped GNOME support. It is what is. It’ll get to where it needs to be eventually. I use COSMIC, it’s missing features for me too but patience is a virtue.
I’m with @MJ1 , it sounds like Ubuntu would be the best fit for you to get GNOME back. Although keep in mind they are about to shove AI tooling in there so you’ll need to strip that out if you don’t want it.
Why are they not learning… folks are leaving Microsoft and Apple in droves because they don’t want this in their operating system… by all means, make additional programs that people can add to their devices if they want them… but learn from the mistakes Apple are making at the moment… automatically opt-ing user in (and forcibly so) is not the right move here.
I didn’t mean too say that you are any less for not using the terminal. One day I might understand not wanting too look under the hood, but today I’m reading the kernel source code to try and understand oom behaviour.
But I did want too make clear regardless off distro, including macos and windows, their exist plenty where the only way forward is thru the terminal. Maybe that is a lesson you already learnt, but their will be more that ask.
Thanks for being that considerate and I did not read it in a negative or harmful way. I am teaching people und privacy and Linux comes up all the time. I would love to tell them, I install you Linux and you are fine. But I can’t. For a normal user, who used Windows or macOS for 10 years and never knew there is a terminal, I cannot. If you want to configure something special, in macOS defaults, or any such thing, I understand a terminal is needed. To me the point is: I need the terminal in Linux more often than any other. The next thing is: Whenever I run into a problem, setting or such, even if there is a UI way of doing it, every side, every guy tells me this:
Sudo apt update
Sudo apt upgrade
Nano …
Although there is a solution in the UI. And this is an issue if Linux shall end up on the desktop for the masses.
The reason why most refer to the terminal, including me, is that it is the lingua franca of Linux. The only thing all Linux distros have in common, besides the kernel, is posix. Gnome, and KDE is only the big DEs, their exist more DEs then I can count, all do things differently.
Even in the terminal, common commands like “sudo apt” may not exist, on my system it doesn’t. I also don’t have systemd, so even that semantics can not be assumed. Things get so much worse with embedded system, where you have no idea what someone decide was unnecessary. I don’t have printk on my system, because I couldn’t figure out how to silence a warning properly.
I am too old for this … I believe in 2026, not every answer should be: Open terminal. Sudo apt update, sudo apt upgrade … So maybe it is ubuntu then. I didnt expect system76 to screw pop!os up so badly…
Why are they not learning… folks are leaving Microsoft and Apple in droves because they don’t want this in their operating system… by all means, make additional programs that people can add to their devices if they want them… but learn from the mistakes Apple are making at the moment… automatically opt-ing user in (and forcibly so) is not the right move here.