I’m anxiously awaiting my Framework, and Qubes is on the list of distros that I want to experiment with. I’ve used it in the past (several years ago) and while I loved some of the security/peace of mind it provides, there are definitely some things that make it hard to use as a daily driver for software development or general productivity if you aren’t intimately aware of the underlying system and how things work. I’m hoping some of that has been polished a little bit, but worst case, I end up repurposing my old laptop for Qubes and my secure computing tasks and run something else on the Framework.
@Mdaly001 How is the general experience of booting off Qubes (or generally any Linux distro) the Framework expansion module? I’m wondering if it’s fast enough. (I don’t really care too much about numerical metrics.)
Not like I trust Linus Sebastian for everything, but I do recall he said he would use the expansion storage modules as backup units rather than putting an OS in his initial Framework review.
(I only say this because I once installed Parrot OS Home directly onto a USB - not to be confused with a live USB - and it was painfully slow whenever anything required read/write operations. For example, updating or installing packages brought a spotlight onto this. I inferred this was the cause because using a web browser was actually fine, so those actions are mostly using RAM, or something among those lines. Of course, I had an off the shelf flash drive and not a USB drive with the world’s fastest read/write speeds.)
@buzz_recount Honestly I have not played with it enough to give an opinion. I use qubes for travel and pandemic has shut that down haha. Let me know tho if you do some extensive testing. The hour or two i did play with it when i first set it up, I didn’t notice anything frustratingly slow. That being said I am coming from an old x330 for my qubes setup.
Hey @Norman_Davie I was able to get qubes installed. I followed the instructions for creating the boot drive on qubes-os.org.
I shut down the framework laptop.
Tap F2 repeatedly to enter BIOS.
Then I disabled secure boot and enabled restoring secure boot to factory settings.
Then I shutdown and booted while tapping F12.
Then I was able to select my boot device loaded with QubesOS iso.
Hopefully it works for you or you’ve already got it installed!
Does the right click on the trackpad work? The HCL mentions problems with the right click, which I hope have been resolved.
I imagine that right click works on fedora and Debian, which means that it should be able to work on Qubes
I am completely new to this laptop and to Qubes. Everything was fine, until I hit reboot after installation (which went without a glitch). Since then the framework diy has hung up with a non-blinking cursor in the upper left corner of the screen, and I don’t know how the shut it down.
I have used the HCL recommended hardware and downloaded, verified Qubes 4.1.0.
Worst case, do a reinstall.
I haven’t had this problem, but I have had a couple of other issues.
If the laptop is suspended, you probably can’t get it to resume, without shutting down the power.
Push the power button for at least 15 seconds, until the light goes out completely, wait briefly, then hit power again.
This might get it to come back.
Qubes 4.1.1 was released on July 18, 2022 (the LTS Linux kernel is now 5.15, so hopefully generally better hardware support) - but also the 12th gen Intel processor motherboards were released on July 21, 2022.