Yeah nevermind, I just checked my bios and nothing except for the EFI entries. I wonder if it shows up under F12 (though again, think it maybe just EFI entries instead of actual devices)
My last thought is just run a live distro (Ubuntu 21.04, etc but something that supports new Intel) and confirming it sees the drive. Always the worst when you try every software trick just to find out its bad hardware!
I have an external NVMe → USB C adapter, was able to verify the SN850 works, gave it a FAT32 format, and indeed it shows up when I try to “Browse” for drivers at this Windows install step. The odd thing is that it doesn’t say which device’s “Media drivers” it needs to allow the installation to finish.
I’m about to try the Ubuntu boot now - aand, it installed on the NVMe drive fine. So, it seems to be Windows-specific. I’m trying the Download Windows tool (I previously downloaded an ISO and used dd to get it on the thumb drive). We’ll see how that works.
OK - it’s working now, and the solution was to use an existing Windows machine and run the Download Windows // make USB tool. Microsoft’s website said the .ISO should be copyable to a thumb drive, and it got me as far as the screenshot above, but left me in this “Media driver needed” state. With the very same thumbdrive, written via the Windows tool, it’s now completing the installation. I don’t know what folks for whom this is their only available Windows machine are supposed to do. I’ll not forget to install the Framework Drivers as well. Thanks, @Davy_Bell and @jr123 (in another thread) for the help!
Glad to hear it! I only trust dd for .img files nowadays. The Windows media creator definitely creates a set of EFI style partitions so it probably has the installer on a pointer to the image in another partition, thus you lose parts of the installer?
Reminds me of custom EFI bootloader (coreboot) on Macbook Air, could have custom themes and easy other OS installs, but if a pointer got messed up, you had a few hours of trying to reorder partition GUIDs
Glad you were able to get it sorted! We definitely recommend using the Windows Media Creation tool to set up the thumb drive, since Windows has some pretty particular requirements about the boot/install media.
We definitely recommend using the Windows Media Creation tool to set up the thumb drive, since Windows has some pretty particular requirements about the boot/install media.
Following the link in your Windows Install Guide on a machine that isn’t running windows was my mistake: Microsoft’s site auto-detects your browser / OS and redirects you to downloading the .ISO. I’ve burned so many EFI - bootable ISO’s (for macOS and Linuxes), I thought “no problem”. Worse, it gets shockingly far into the install, then throws what seems to be an unrelated error. This is definitely Microsoft’s problem, but it’s a problem for folks starting the process without a Windows machine handy. It added 5 hours to my “getting the Framework going” process (!)
A great tool that works on both linux and windows is Ventoy - additionally, it lets you copy over as many ISOs, WIMs, and even VM disk images can be booted. While there is no MacOS ventoy installer, once ventoy is installed on a USB drive, ISOs can be added from any OS that can mount exFAT partitions. It’s also FOSS.
I used my Framework laptop running Linux to do this. The compression of the win file does take some time, but it was successful whereas simply copying the ISO bytes to the USB stick resulted in the original symptom described at the top of this post.