Will the framework 13/16 mobo will work with a touch screen display with appropriate connectors and drivers?
For the Framework-13, connector wise, yes and no.
Technically, yes. But in reality, considering that there is no touchscreen compatible cable available, no.
The motherboard connector has touchscreen signals, but Framework does not currently sell a cable which carries those signals over to the display end. The current Framework-13 display uses a common 40-pin four lane eDP connector pinout, this pinout does not have touchscreen signals, and so the cable can’t have those pins. Having a custom cable made would be very expensive, prohibitively expensive for an individual.
Just to be clear, do not attempt to plug in a touchscreen display using the current Framework-13 cable. It’s not a touchscreen cable.
Common eDP laptop panel pinouts
Framework-13 display side connector pinout
Framework-13 motherboard side connector pinout
For the Framework-16, it’s not yet known.
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So in short The mobo supports touch screen but we don’t have the proper cable…
But pitstoptech has made a gaming handheld with touchscreen
Yes.
Yeah, they posted a video here Framework Gaming Handheld Video!
But I haven’t seen them share details on the build. Some touchscreens use usb for the touch portion. If it’s usb and breaks that out to a separate connector, then you can connect it to any available usb port. Besides the normal 4 usb ports on the sides, a Framework-13 has a couple internal usb connections. The webcam and the fingerprint reader have usb connections.
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I’ve noticed because of the touchscreen borders; some 15.6" touchscreens are close to the size of the 16" display.
Hello:
I’d like to highlight for the Framework team that a touchscreen flavor of the FW13 would be a very helpful option for some older folks who are not as adept as we are with touchpads and mice.
I have observed several older people I’ve helped and much to my surprise touch screens really are a help when they need to urgently switch tabs or close a window. Bright and vivid OLED screens are helpful too, and i guess burn-in is not a concern for limited use.
Suggestion:
Adapt one of the good 16:10 or hopefully 3:2 13"/14" OLED panels for a small framework laptop update to align with the next Hawk Point / Strix Point AMD Ryzen refresh.
Worst case, even it the panel and hinges force this to be an oversized 2-in-1 FW13 chassis variant, perhaps those new main boards can retain compatibility with stock FW13 albeit without touch, obviously.
Thank you!
David
Edit to update: Yes, I do recall seeing some comments from Framework team previously about the complexity of touchscreens. My point here is to share how helpful this feature may be outside of merely the cool factor or creator space.
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I suppose that when they’re ready, if the motherboard supports it then Framework could release a touch screen and any required wire harness changes when they’re ready to. Honestly, I like laptops with touch screens but unless it’s a 2-in-1, its definitely a nice to have.
For my own use I agree, no point without a 2-in-1 chassis option.
But for older folks, even without using any part of the 2-in-1 aspect, touch screens appear to have value.
In practical terms, I agree that linking a touchscreen to a 2-in-1 option might be the way to capture enough volume to be worthwhile.
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I would appreciate a touch screen option as well. I showed my fw13 at christmas to my nephews and they were really excited about it. They said they would like to buy one. But they need a touchscreen for their school obligatory, not just as a nice to have. So, pupils and students are very interested in this feature as well.
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I currently have a Dell XPS 13 with 4k touchscreen display. I was considering switching laptop since I would love to have a repairable laptop, but for me switching is a no-go only because the panel is not touchscreen.
Since it’s not a cheap laptop, I would like to have the option to choose a higher end panel.
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Why would it be prohibitively expensive? Realistically, the touchscreen would be better if it were glass, so you’d need a new assembly anyways, possibly a new bezel too and the new screen assembly would probably just have the cable necessary attached to it anyways. I don’t think most people would have to manually change the cable and since the pin outs are already there, they just have to make the cable with the correct pin outs for said touchscreen compatibility and bam. It can be an option for new customers like the main board is and upgrade option for existing ones.
A custom cable would be prohibitively expensive for an individual to have made. Framework of course could do it if they come out with a touchscreen option. And a custom cable is needed because there seems to be no standard for motherboard side display connectors.
I am in the market for a high quality laptop as my 3rd Gen SurfaceBook is getting a little long in the tooth. I was looking at the Framework 13 as a possible replacement , but without a touchscreen Framework is not getting my money ! I will go ahead and purchase a Dell XPS or a Surface Laptop (the Studio that replaced the SurfaceBook series is just too clunky).
I won’t buy a framework until the rj-45 problem is solved (it sticks out and color doesn’t even match laptop) and they provide a touchscreen.
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Welcome to the forum.
OK so you won’t buy, or simply you want as you mentioned.
Framework is a business and no doubt have to consider the ‘market’ not individual wants, or in the case of the touch screen a few more than a handful.
On the fj-45. There is no problem. The thickness of the laptop doesn’t allow for a full - inbuild.
As far as the colour goes you can change that yourself.
So a few things you want and don’t want. That’s common. But there are so many things about the framework that I like it is a no brainer. Didn’t really have to think about it.
Well I did think about the touch screen but I quickly moved on from there.
Take care. You may find what you want somewhere close.
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You might want to tone it down.
You are not interested in the product as it is offered today, your engagement is rude at best and offensive at worst, and you do not seem to or care to take the time to understand how to interact in a constructive manner. Please do better.
Edit to add - it should be clear to everyone that I am not a mod. I think that they are tagged as such when they do post.
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Well you may not get the touch screen you want, very soon, but you are still here. So at least the Framework forum provides a place to express your wants and you haven’t hurt my feelings.
The Rj-45 will not fit in an expansion card they are only 6.5mm in height.
The Thinkpad has a thicker bottom chassis so that’s not comparable.
Yes watch you text as it can be moderated.
The forum does make it clear that you can challenge the ideas but not to be rude to the people.
I missed your earlier posts, but you can still engage.
Lets keep responses related to the topic. No personal insults or attacks. Please review the community guidelines when in doubt.
This community is well known for allowing criticism of Framework’s products. We do not allow for personal insults.
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