[TRACKING] AMD FW13 fan speed jumps up high, drops quickly back to low / off

@Matt_Hartley Given the excellent write up from @Charlie_6, can this issue be handed off to engineering for a hopeful fix?

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I can replicate on my fresh install (Fedora Kinoite 40 on Framework 13" AMD 7040)

I am tracking this for a resolution to the issue. The fan noise is changing my experience from “have recommended framework to others who bought one”, to: “going to set up a desktop and just use this machine when necessary, because the fan is so annoying”.

I hope there is a solution that can bring the computer into an acceptable function.

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Is this fixable by setting your own values via ectool for the fan curve? I believe you can customize the whole table.

I have not tried yet but I do get pulses sometimes. I have not attempted to rectify the issue.

actually the real problem is this Fan_off temperature 376 K, which is 103 DegC! Thus the fan never speeds up before frequency throttling. Reasonable fan_off temp should be 40-60C, i.e. 313 K - 333 K

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Hi!

This is still a big issue for me. I am on the AMD Ryzen 5 7640U Framework 13 laptop, with the latest BIOS.

There is two compounding problem:
1 - The fan as a constant whiney sound to it. Using an app on my phone (so obviously uncalibrated), I can see that it emit a constant sound at 17k to 20k Hz. This would be fine for older folk who tend to lose a lot of earring around those high frequency, but for me this is incredibly noticeable.
When the CPU/GPU is under load, the fan start to emit lower frequency sound (more whooshy), which drown out the high freq noise a bit, but the high frequency noise is still here.

2 - At low relatively low CPU&GPU usage, the fan likes to kick up to ~2000rpm and then go back to 0rpm after a few second, like a not well tuned PID system. This is very distracting because it makes it very difficult to “zone-out” the noise since it is not constant anymore.


Due to the high frequency and relatively low dB, it is possible to block it with just ear plugs, or simply when wearing headphones. But I work in an office surrounded by colleagues, whom I can’t really tell to just wear ear plugs all day long. This issue as blocked the adoption of more framework laptop for us, because this noise issue is just way to distracting, and is honestly causing stress, for us.

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Here is an example of when I force it to go to higher RPM by stress-testing the CPU:

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Funnily enough, I stumble upon this review of the cooler master case today, from 1 year ago, and you can see exactly the same issue with the high pitch noise: https://youtu.be/wCZNocDAMoc?t=554