Ahh, thanks!
I really kinda want to have a 10GbE NIC and I guess I am going to have to get a new case…
I would like a dual 10GB SPF+ card. I suspect I should have went with the main board only, but I really like how quiet and small and compact the desktop is. All my other lab PCs are full towers. hah
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or a dual 25GB SFP28 card 
Won’t do you much good since its only an x4 slot!
Hi. I just got my Framework Desktop and have hopes of using the PCIe slot for an NVMe 4TB SSD, but I have tried two cheap ones, and they have both failed. I have another one on order that a member here suggested, but I thought I’d ask you guys, as this seemed to be something you were figuring out a month ago. I don’t mind spending a few more dollars if it is a high-quality one that won’t fail or burn out my SSD. Any advice or experience with this would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Even the cheap ones should not do that
I tried this adapter, unscrewed the brackets and it worked initially for few hours until suddenly stopped. the system won’t even boot with the adapter installed. tried different one but didn’t work.
I tried this one. It booted initially and seemed fine for a few hours, but eventually when restarting, it went into endless system hardware checks and never booted again with it mounted.
Then I tried this one- I could see the drive in Disk Management as “no media”, and wouldn’t recognize the adapter.
So now I’m going to try this one, when it arrives later this week. This was Grok’s reasoning for downgrading to older technology: “Why PA09-HS Succeeds Where PA19 Fails: It’s capped at PCIe 4.0 (no Gen5 overreach), uses a more stable ASMedia bridge (ASM2362 or equivalent), and has better power delivery/thermal design for consistent enumeration on AMD boards. No reported USB fallback or “No Media” issues in 2025 reviews”. I’ll let you guys know if it works or not.
I will probably put either a PCIe combo controller in for lots of USB, or a proper 4k capture card.
Grock is making stuff up, there is no asmedia bridge or any smarts on either of them. Main difference is the old one directly takes the 3.3v rail from the system while the PA09 has an onboard regulator that converts 12V to 3.3v, is that regulator is any good that may allow you to use more power hungry ssds in the case the systems 3.3v rail is underpowered, spec wise a pcie slot is supposed to provide at least 3A of 3.3v but it would not surprise me if framework undecooked that and if your ssd overloaded the 3.3v rail that would explain the machine not posting so in that regard the new adabter might help. Signal wise both adapters are purely passive.
What ssd where you using speciffically when you had the not positng issue and what ssds where in the other m.2 slots? Did the ssd work in other machines after?
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I’m using a Crucial P310 4TB/7100 mb/s ssd. I have a duplicate of same one in the main slot currently. The back-of-machine slot has a Orico 4TB ssd that is working fine, too. For the Crucial one in the PCIe adapter, it worked fine mounted in one of the m.2 slots in my other PC (that I moved from), so I know the drive is functional. I actually pulled it back out and checked it again in the old PC to make sure it was the adapter and not the ssd before bringing it back to the Framework. Oh well, we’ll find out on Friday if the PA09 works or not.
That sounds like there may be something to my weak 3.3v rail theory, in that case the other adapter with the onboard 3.3v regulator may do the trick.
network: 2x25 => 50 Gbit/s
4xPcie 4.0 => 64Gbit/s
look good for me 
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A dual 25Gbit connecx6 officially works with 8 lanes of pcie3 and also supports pcie4, so i think 64Gbit should be enough bandwidth for that.
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Good point! For now I only have 1 Desktop so I won’t test,
But It is a 8 Pcie4x, I have no problem with bandwidth, but some with power.
Pcie x4 bracket have lower power spec than Pcie x8/x16. This causes some problems with graphics cards.
But if someone test it, happy to know if it work
The other possibility I see is a USB4/Thunderbold 5 Pcie4x … but hard to find one that can work.
Third time’s the charm! It wasn’t easy- I actually completely crashed my system and had to do a complete reinstall of Windows, but once I went into Bios and slowed the PCIe slot speed to Gen3, the last adapter worked. So I’m finally up and running after two weeks of troubleshooting. I now have three 4tb NVMe SSDs mounted, plus a 2TB external drive with USB for 14TB total. I’m happy to share more details if anyone else is dealing with something similar.