The point is outperform by how much, and can we expect that from Framework as well when comparing to the competition. (i.e. look beyond just the processor itself)
Ah. Yes they make very performant laptops that … somewhat lack chassis rigidity. Feels cheap, given the cooling solution they pack.
That prestige looks really nice, though.
I think it’s thermal-limited. Those new chips are hot.
There isn’t a lot of info on the internals (general layout, etc) but it seems like they have at least 45W of cooling. A slightly more “beefed-up” version of the current thermal solution should be adequate. Slightly thicker heatpipes and a thicker radiator.
The new XPS 13 plus full-send the thermal solution, going as far as to remove the function keys to get the extra 2mm of radiator height. LTT.
I am not going to say “concern”, since it’s kind of what that made it possible for them to be competitive (in terms of pricing) in a aggressively-priced market such as China, where other manufacturers are able to get away with using low-quality components (for the ram, storage, motherboard construction, etc.)
Because people don’t care about motherboard trace optimizations or what is the color of the sticker on the SSD or RAM. All they care is “they both have a i7 and 3070 Ti, and this one is cheaper so I will go buy this”, even though cheaper doesn’t always mean good, and usually means compromise in one way or another.
yo quiero una laptop modular de verdad, me gustaría una que pueda cambiar la bateria, ponerle refrigeración liquida, que coja 2 procesadores (el ryzen 9 7980hx y el i9 12900hx) bluetooth 5.0 ha eso le llamo una laptop modular.
I want a real modular laptop, I would like one that can change the battery, put liquid cooling on it, that takes 2 processors (the ryzen 9 7980hx and the i9 12900hx) bluetooth 5.0 has that I call it a modular laptop
Once again, people don’t understand how the laws of physics and thermodynamics work. Sigh.
This will never be possible, because what you’re describing is a PC that doesn’t exist. Not to mention your “battery” would be the size of a large briefcase and would weigh in excess of 70 lbs, and it would probably only last 30 minutes, tops.
haha yes I exaggerated a bit with the 2 processor but everything I asked for does not violate any physical law, look at my idea for example a pure lithium cathode battery stores 9 times more than a lithium ion battery with iron or something else.
the cooling is easily solved when the turbo mode is activated you have to be connected to the current with hydrogen circulating the processor (which has a very high specific heat) and the hydrogen cooled by a pertiel cell and the cell by external dicipators reinforced with water to cool it by convention, the only thing to wait for next year for ryzen 7000, I’m not an idiot or stupid.
I already have all the design in my mind, the only thing is to find a company to get to work and make it possible to use audio acoustic plugins with latency of nanoseconds
ha se me olvidava lo del peso con grafeno y los 5nm de tsmc se soluciona el tamaño y peso
With that comes a whole other problem. 12th gen has been out already for a while now. Some 2022 laptops have been shipping with it since January, more are coming out and available as we speak.
The later the framework (or any other company) releases their new products the less relevant they will be. Imagine if they would come out with the 11th gen now, nobody would care.
Thus, IF there will be 12th gen or AMD 6000 in Framework, releasing it 6 months from now would be rather pointless, as by then people will be waiting for next generations from AMD and/or Intel.
Given that framework don’t need to redesign all the rest of the laptop, it should be actually faster to the market than other brands.
It’s not like other companies can’t do the same. The Dell XPS13 laptop has used the same shell more or less for multiple mainboard iterations IIRC and minor changes like where to machine holes for the available ports aren’t a big deal either, especially not for larger brands.
it’s not very difficult to design a somewhat portable … thing. that can provide ample cooling for the parts.
No. Only very specific server processors (Intel Xeon, AMD threadripper) support multi-core (with matching model numbers) systems, let alone having them two work together.
In the future, we might have so-called “hybid chips” because we have UCIe.
The Dell XPS 9343/9350/9360 even have more or less the same motherboard. All of their parts (display, keyboard, battery, etc) are interchangeable and the chassis is the same. The only difference in that the 9343 don’t have Thunderbolt support.
Then you have the 9365 which lasted one generation, then the 9300 (which might be the one used until the new XPS 13 plus)
The 9360 is the last XPS I considers “good” because it have USB-A ports.
Yes. Fortunately, all signs (motherboard discounts) point to the fact that they are getting close(r).
Hmm, would disagree, not everyone is constantly looking for the best CPU available. Most people to my knowledge don’t buy Framework because of it’s CPU, or computing power, but instead for the promise of being able to fix it, and the concept of a repairable laptop. Many workloads also do not require the top of the end CPU, Framework isn’t meant to be a workstation, it’s a thin and light.
This framework should be a significant upgrade compared to what I have.
In fairness, for me there is no significant difference between big OEMs and Framework – you can get replacement parts off amazon either way. And they don’t have any repair lockdowns that it’s entirely plausible to do it yourself.
My thinking is that if a chassis have already had a board swap then it’s probably safe to say that the next time it breaks it’s time to get a new one. Storage (and sometimes wireless) are modular so they can come out too.
