I’m as frustrated as anyone, but this is simply not true. I bought my 12th gen in January 2023. However, I accept that I’ve bought in early on a developing hardware company. I just wish Framework would own up to the fact this is difficult and just say “This is hard, we have to be realistic with limited resources and move on.”
For computers of any kind (laptops, desktops, phones, tablets, smart watches, etc.) the end of regular security updates is pretty commonly understood as the end of the product lifecycle.
When a device stops getting security updates, it’s time to throw it out (or airgap it and use it for entertainment only) and buy a newer device.
This is a pretty wasteful mentality for consumer level stuff, and frankly not in alignment with Framework’s vision for sustainable products. I fully understand that this is the norm for enterprise gear. But this is not marketed as enterprise level gear. It a really cool laptop from a startup. The amount of butthurt people in this thread literally proves how little people understand about startups and small businesses. You bought a product from a startup/small business. Holding them to the same standard as a fortune 500 company sets everyone up for disappointment.
Does it suck its taken a while for this update? Yes. Im frustrated and getting impatient too, but i cant do anything about it so im not wasting cycles on caring about it. Stuff happens. Theyre working on it. Everyone needs to stop stirring up drama.
I thought they already said this in their last update.
(https://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-06-beta/25726/426)
They didn’t say that they were moving on, but that they have limited resources, and that “we have not forgotten about you”
Great, are they working on now 2 monthes later ?
Anu roadmap for 12th gen ?
thks for the update
Sadly we don’t know if the contract was signed or if the new team is hired yet.
What are you referring to?
I only see this quote:
At this time, this last post from Nirav outlines the process we’ll use when we’re ready
I don’t see a real meaningful statement.
So you don’t see the piece from Nirav that Matt is quoting that says a contract has been signed and staff from the BIOS supplier assigned to work on it?
No, I see what happened - you only read the first line from Matt!!
Ok, you are not referring to the post you linked to.
So I quote the part from the post you are referring to:
Now, we have a negotiated contract for a dedicated team to provide ongoing software work post-launch.
The contract is the starting point. From here, our supplier needs to reallocate or hire the new team members
This is what I said. The contract is negotiated and we don’t know, if it was signed already or if the framework team is ready yet.
Edit: I don’t think, it was signed yet, because the post is 3 months old and nothing happened in the time between.
Edit2: Please quote a sentence you are referring to, which explicitly states, that the contract was signed or the staff was hired.
Well, you don’t have a contract until it is signed. If it is not signed then there is no need for the supplier to allocate staff.
Hello everyone,
Testing of the next 12th Gen Intel Core BIOS (3.08) is in the final stages with our development partner and the current plan is to release it in BETA to the Community following the New Year break. We’ll have an update for you on January 2nd.
Thanks for hanging in there with us.
Now this would be a really good start into the new year!
Thank you for the update @TheTwistgibber
Very cool, thanks for the update.
Keeping my finger crossed we get an actual stable release out of this, and that we don’t go back to the end of the line if there are issues with it.
This is the real trick. I’ll give Framework props tho. I wanted an update before end of year and they just managed it with a few days to spare. We shall see how quickly the Beta launches after Jan 1st and then see how smoothly(if it does) move to stable release. Perhaps there is hope yet. Gladdened to see a commitment to a specific date for communication.
Did you find a solution yet? i have the exact same. my bios update failed and keeps trying to install the system update when rebooting now… i hope this 3.08 update fixes it. was quite expensive toy then…
Just wanted to get my first usb4 device working …
Usb 4? you mean thunderbolt4? also, if the update is stuck, did you contact support? They might have a step by step guide to get out a potential update loop (maybe somehow make the firmware updates finish completely)