Exactly as the title says, does it have a TPM chip for BitLocker?
Can you also change the CPU by yourself?
When will the pen come out and if you bought a FW 12, but if you already ordered it, can you get a discount for the pen or at least no shipping costs, because I assume you have to order them afterwards or separate?
Will there be an expansion for LTE/4g/5g/Sim card?
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The reason I am interested is because of the touchscreen for writing. Preferable how to solve simple equations for an internship in teaching that I am doing. It is an alternative to Surface Pro and other similar laptops. It also seems an alternative to iPad, because iPad feels restricted and I am in the “Apple eco-system.” I have not yet ordered one, because I need some more information, hence this post. Also hence not knowing about a lot of stuff. It is restricted because since giving a couple of, counting on one hand, lessons, the Digiboard at school not always work with my Mac, most schools are Windows based, so I am looking for alternatives.
The reason for the LTE/4g/5g/sim is because for traveling, FW 12 seems small enough and the question about the stylus.
Biggest reason is of course: kind of building your own laptop and longevity.
As the Framework 12 is marketed and sold with Windows 11 it is safe to assume that the FW 12 does have a TPM. As a matter of fact, ALL Framework products have TPMs.
No, you would need to replace the mainboard to accomplish that. This is how that works on all existing Framework products.
From what I understand, if the pen becomes available before the laptop ships, you should be able to add it to your pre-order.
Hard to say, but nothing has been announced. It has been something people have suggested since the very first Framework computer was announced. But if they do make one, it’s the kind of thing they probably won’t announce until it’s almost ready, so it’s really tough to speculate. They may never make one or they may announce one tomorrow, lol.
I’d like to add that socketed mobile/laptop CPUs are no longer manufactured, unfortunately. No mainstream laptop has had socketed CPU’s in a very long time. Some niche “laptops” have been made with desktop CPU chips, but those CPUs are entirely designed for unlimited wall power plus desktop-sized cooling systems, and as such they do simply horrible in a laptop. So a replaceable motherboard is the only option for performance and battery life anywhere near what people will accept.
Some community members have worked on LTE cards. One was even available for sale for awhile. Currently I saw someone planning a new smaller card. They posted their circuit board design and it looked to be moving along quickly, but of course never know until it’s out, doing great, and demand is high enough to keep it going.
Haven’t seen any serious efforts to produce a 5G expansion card. It seems that the 5G modules which are currently available are too large and very expensive. Bare 5G chips and the supporting RF circuity might be able to fit, but RF design is often called black magic, few people know how to do it well enough to get an acceptable result. And those that know how to do it, usually charge a prohibitive amount of money for their time. Due to that, one really needs to use a 5G module, which contains the hard RF side.
Do you mean just plugging in a usb cellular modem? The certainly works. It’s just fitting the circuitry into the confines of a Framework expansion card that is a bit hard. People overestimate the amount of room available inside and don’t realize how much room components will take for some things.
The new smaller LTE card that I mentioned a community member working on, it would stick out a bit. And in the board design he posted I saw not one millimeter of length wasted. LTE modules are just too long.
Yes that is what I meant, in the square expansion format/card that FW offers. Do you have a link to the post of that community member?
Do you think it is possible to miniaturize the board with the help of PCBway, or ask him this question?
Kind regards.
No, very much not possible to miniaturize, imo. At least without someone skilled in the black magic of cellular RF design. And the time of those that are skilled in it, I believe is way too valuable to them to spend their time on this. Which is also the reason a 5G card is unlikely at this point in time. I edited my post to comment on the 5G part,
in case you missed it.
The picture of the board he posted looks to me to have not one millimeter of length wasted. The connectors are placed right up against the module. LTE modules are just too long. Honestly, we are lucky they even fit at all! If they were a couple millimeters wider, it wouldn’t fit inside at all.
Hi, do you know when the laptop is being send in Q3? Or does someone else know this, I am looking through the forums trying to find it.
Kind regards, and have a nice day.
You won’t be able to find it, because at this point in time, no one knows. Not even Framework staff would be able to say with complete certainty.
It will depend entirely on how smoothly production goes, and how the ramp up of production speed goes. And knowing that would be predicting the future. Framework will be shipping them out the door the moment they come off the production line. That is what they have done with previous pre-orders of laptops.
