If I contributed to that, I’ll edit and apologize. I did not want to come across as unwelcoming or dismissive, but I was trying to manage expectations - everyone’s free to ask these questions and debate and speculate all you like, but there will not be any definitive answers right now. And it’s not to be mean or anything, it’s just a fact.
The question is: will the 16" have ECC support? The most accurate answer is: we don’t know. We don’t even know what CPUs the 16 will have - it’s quite far away.
I am definitely not an ECC naysayer, my old Supermicro FreeNAS/TrueNAS build can attest to that. It’d be great to replace it with a Framework mainboard with ECC for extra security with its copy-on-write ZFS filesystem. Will it happen? No one knows right now.
Thanks everyone for the information; I guess for the Framework Laptop 16 we still have to wait, but like @Mark_K and @lhl wrote I think having ECC support turns the Framework Laptops into must-buys as well… especially for the potential of being upcycled into something useful long after the motherboard+cpu underperform compared to their contemporaries in 3 - 7 years.
That said, I also didn’t see any mention of ECC support for the Framework Laptop 13?
Nooo please no unnecessary segmentation, plus pretty sure all the amd boards are going to be the same with just a different soc, otherwise they are making themselves more work than necessary.
Typically, you would want to minimize the parts’ variance…in this case, the PCB, for a particular generation of CPU. The pins on the CPU (of a given generation) don’t change between CPU SKUs…it’s up to the processor to report what it’s capable of. e.g. Whether the processor support ECC or not…instead of being determined by the traces on the PCB. (memory controller these days are on the CPU die…integrated memory controller)
Yes! Please, make ECC possible! Having a long uptime system is such a big thing! And being able to turn the old framework into a server is also such a great reuse of resources! I was considering to make my old mainboard into a server in the future, but soon enough, I realised that it doesn’t have ECC support, so in a way this is a dealbreaker too
Correct me if Im wrong, but doesn’t DDR5 have a decent amount of crossover natively, with the featureset of ECC? Something about moving the controller onto the dimm making it capable of error correcting.
