Ethernet Expansion Card

this is the internet. not being facetious, the ‘/s’ tag really is necessary. nobody can hear the tone of your voice in a community post.

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@Kieran_Levin Any word on Frame.work’s official GB ethernet expansion card? Thx

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Honestly it’s probably not happening for next few months if not till 2022 as they would not have much time to design.

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Alright, expect delays as their product page says it’s in production but if you look closer it’s not recommended for new design, looks like it’s the Realtek chip so good for people who want 2.5gBE.

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Which means that I will be offering Gigabit and 2.5 gigabit as long as thermals permit! The rj-45 port will be 10 gig capable so if Realtek does make a drop in replacement it can happen!

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i wonder what this is :wink:


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Just gotta add a few environmental marks and what not and she’ll be right.

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Of course it is a joke - just parse it carefully :slight_smile:
Sorry you didn’t like it.

I can’t tell a screw from a capacitor so when it comes to HW all I can do is joke and root for the tinkerers :slight_smile:

Hey, just a ping. Can you update the github repo, so I can also see the progress? I’d love to see how it’s going right now.

Just a nit pik, if you’re going to use the molex USB C connector, make sure to add a
protrusion on the PCB to accommodate it; otherwise, you will run into assembly
problems.

Here’s an example from the reference expansion card on Github:

USB C pcb footprint on reference Expansion carddesign

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@mrwm Github has been updated, look under the rev B branch.

Sorry, new repo. Messed with it and had to delete the old repo. New link: https://github.com/jyancat/USB_C-to-Gigabit-Ethernet

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I need your help. Does anyone know of a distributor for both the RTL8153 and RTL8156?

Alibaba or aliexpress?

Yep, but would everyone be fine with that as it’s a bit dodgy?

Also what kind of prices would everyone want this to be, remember I will use the best quality components, for example a Vishay, Nippon or Panasonic capacitor. I’m looking at around the 30 to 40 US dollar range if not 50 as I will be manually assembling these.

As noted in this thread by @nrp, with someone selling his framework laptop…

I know it’s in reference to the laptop, but the same could possibly apply here to expansion cards as well. I would also like to know how other people plan on pricing their creations here, along with forum rules, and how they will be enforced.

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Yep, I will most definitely need to make a profit personally to at least pay off the gear I currently own. Can I get a rough guess how many people would be willing to buy one for 40-50 US dollars?

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$50 seems a bit high in my opinion. $30 is the ballpark I was thinking where the value proposition over a dongle makes sense.

As far as @mrwm’s concerns about selling/promoting on the community forum, I think that quote is slightly out of context. Nirav was responding to someone reselling their Framework laptop. Other threads (like the SNACK drawer) have been fine. This is the expansion cards forum after all :slightly_smiling_face:.

Maybe another option is Tindie or a DIY kit model? Print a bunch of PCBs and sell those with a schematic and BoM so buyers can save money on components if they want.

Maybe I’m just weird, but I would be more willing to buy a kit that I can consider a project for a higher price. Dirt cheap consumer electronics have made it hard for me to overcome the psychological hurdle of expensive pre-assembled niche devices. Though, if the board only has microscopic SMD components, then maybe DIY assembly isn’t achievable.

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I agree.

I believe what Nirav and the team is trying to avoid is people buying something off of the Framework marketplace (store) and then turning around and selling it at a profit.
Low-volume production is inherently more susceptible to scalping, as the supply can be more easily reduced.

I’d imagine they’d be totally fine with people selling the things they develop and make (assuming it’s legal and within the appropriate policies, of course).

Totally agree with this one.
It can save some assembly time from @Josh_Cook and can let people have a small “project”.

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