Hey guys, does anyone know why the framework laptop is so expensive in Europe in comparison with US? It would be cheaper (or about the same price) for me to catch a flight to New York and buy one there than just ordering one to Europe.
Are there any projections for the price to drop in eur? Maybe storage in europe?
This has been discussed a few times actually, but I believe NRP’s post here explains the cost differences the best:
One of the main things that I think people do not realize is that prices in the US are listed without taxes included. However taxes are only 5-7%.
Thank you for the fast reply! I guess it explains the majority of the situation
So, I simulated buying one in US and one in EU. The EU version is about 200€ more expensive than the US, even after tax. Same configuration, same options.
This is completly normal all tech is more expensive in the EU not just the Framework laptop.
Sure, but i mean… Usually it´s not woth to fly somewhere and get the same product…
Have a look in this thread. You’ll find more answers there.
Most of it seems to be the much higher tax rate and that they are required to have local service support.
As a side note, I’ve been to the Netherlands several times and have noticed they don’t accept Visa or Mastercard in many places. An issue for me as an Australian, since all of my travel cards are Mastercards. I asked in a couple of places and the transaction fees where several percent higher than in Australia.
So that could be effecting their payment processing too.
Have you factored in the cost of a 2 year versus 1 year warranty?
Interesting. For someone who will have to travel to some supported European country to pick up my order and go back, I don’t I would even be able to use such warranty if needed. Too bad if EU doesn’t give an option to opt out of it.
You can use the warranty as long as a) you pick it up from the address Framework sent it to and b) Send it back from there as that is where the RMA label will be valid from.
As far as the EU goes the 2 year is general amongst EU members, it does not apply to external nations. Further each EU nation can internally set their own warrantees.
If a foreign business sets up in the EU they are bound by the nation’s laws they have set up in and pay their taxes and if they want to ship to other EU nations, the minimum 2 years.
Something like that.
And you may find a card not registered to a bank in the country you ‘ship’ to will not work.
I doubt you could do a return flight to the US or Canada for that price.
Also there are various other items to factor into the actual cost that won’t generally appear. Airport taxes for the freight aircraft, actual cost of doing customs clearance that will be billed back to Framework as part of the freight charge. I also wonder about actual local delivery charges as well compared to the USA, knowing a little of how UK/European charges compare to US charges these will also be relatively higher. These are all intangibles that will be factored into the FIS (well, actually free to delivery address) cost that you see.