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Which Framework Laptop 13, Ultra Series 1, 13th Gen Intel® Core™ .

Uncle! I’ve finally succumbed to the constant barrage of updates, and forth coming versions of Fedora. (I feel like Mickey Mouse confronting the brooms in the Sorcerer’s Apprentice Sorcerer's Apprentice - Fantasia | Disney Video) So time to try something new, Ubuntu.

Installed it just fine but have a couple of minor issues, so far.

  1. Very intermittently, the track pad just stops working. I can log out (CTRL-ALT-DEL…), then log back in and things are fine. I have not been able to characterize what is going on. A quick look at the logs hasn’t revealed anything obvious. Maybe this is a known issue with a quick fix I haven’t discovered? KOW.

  2. When I close the lid, the system does not go into stand-by immediately. But if I keep the lid closed for a few minutes the system will go into standby. HMMM. I haven’t found anything in the Settings app to control/change this behavior. Is it buried deep in the Settings app somewhere? Or, do a need to type something at the command line to make the change? Or, can it even be configured? I’d like the machine to go into stand-by immediately upon lid close.

  3. Installed application management–WHAT A GIANT PIA! The Application Center installs/lists/removes/updates Snap package. But, it only installs DEB packages. From there they seemingly disappear. To do anything after I install a DEB package, LibreOffice for example, I have to use procedures detailed here Managing your software - Ubuntu Server documentation WHAT A GIANT PIA! Or, maybe use the Software Updater, I haven’t been able to determine, yet, how well it works. Please tell me there is an easier way. Every other distro I’ve used, Fedora, Mint, MX-Linux, Pop!_OS and more has had a simple, clean unified way of managing applications. (Wow this could be the straw that breaks the camels back and drives me back to Fedora.)


Rod

Please tell me there is an easier way.

Yea, stay away from Ubuntu! :rofl:
They really push snaps. Which is not open on the back end / controlled only by Ubuntu. Actual snap packages are not some version of a deb package at all, if that what you might have thought.

But, it only installs DEB packages. From there they seemingly disappear.

Not sure if the “disappearing” issue is this, but Ubuntu pushes snaps so forcfully that Iirc attempting to install some deb packages will silently redirect and install a snap package instead. That’s how bad Ubuntu has been with it.

It’s supposed to be possible to disable snaps and / or their silent deb to snap redirect, but honestly if you don’t want to buy into snap, then I’d go for Mint instead. Based on Ubuntu but with the forced snap mechanism killed. Plus the usual Mint features and user-friendliness of course.

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Rod --nothing’s perfect–

I am assuming that you are using 24.04 and I would say that if you can and have the drive that you should move back to 22.04. It is stable and doesn’t seem to have a lot of the issues that 24.04 has. Seems like a regression, I know, but 24.04 was wonky when I tried it a while back and it doesn’t seem like it is much better now.

Just make sure that if you go that route that you move to the OEM kernel as indicated by the Framework guide.

Yep 24.04, no real wonkiness, 24.04 worked rather well. My issue with Ubuntu is the [horrible IMHO] design and implementation of the “Application Center” app and the way snaps were pushed out into the Linux community.

I’m through with Ubuntu for now. Fedora is working quite nicely for my needs. All the apps I need are there, solid, and supported [thinking about ProtonVPN]. I just have to deal with the frequent updates/versions…like I said, nothing’s perfect.


Rod

It is a shame, because I feel from a technical standpoint snaps are superior. Like you initially, I really disliked the whole rolling update nature of Fedora. I feel like desktop Linux is already rocky enough without climbing a new mountain every 6 months. Still Fedora does a pretty good job of keeping most things stable.


Rod

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After thinking it over, I think I might agree with you. I have just had better success with snaps integrated in a way that was usable beyond userspace.

I think variety is great so I don’t begrudge anything. I’m not the biggest fan of Red Hat these days, but I recognize merit where it exist.

Anyway glad you are back on what is working best for you!

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