New Laptop 12 stuff on the website (parts, KB...)

Hello everyone,

I just noticed the Framework website has been updated with some Laptop 12-related things:

  • Marketplace: Lots of parts, with prices (still no price or timeline for the pen though)
  • Knowledge Base:
    • Some articles have been written, including details on expansion card slots (confirming there are two USB3.2 Gen 2x1 and two USB3.2 Gen 2x2, as mentioned in other threads here and here).
    • However the “What DRAM/memory is supported” article (which helps figure out which memory modules are likely to be compatible with a particular product) is still “coming soon”, so those (like me) who need to order memory for their DIY laptop 12 and would like to stick to one of the tested models will need to wait a bit longer.

These might answer or at least fuel some of the questions and conversations from other threads, and maybe start new ones (for example the replaceable pen battery seems to be a Framework-specific part?).

Plus it gives us something to chew on while waiting for our pre-shipping e-mails :smiley:

Enjoy!

Edit: Clarified a few things and added some links.

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Thanks for letting us know!

frame.work/marketplace?compatibility%5B%5D=laptop_12_13th_gen_intel_core

FWL12 part links, and full-size picture links

Not every part. Screws, hinge cover, etc not included.

I imagine there might be others like me, who will go look at the parts to see the backsides / internals. Might as well drop pictures here for others? Plus a convenient spot if and when I need to check something. Spend some time now to save more time in the future.

Pogo pins, as far as the eye can see. :saluting_face: FW mentioned using them for the keyboard, didn’t realize they also used them on everything possible. Nice.

Replacement guides link: guides.frame.work/c/Framework_Laptop_12

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On the above linked page, in the Memory and Storage section, there are levels “Framework Laptop 16” for the Laptop 12 storage. It seems that these look wrong.

The actual URL is https://frame.work/es/en/marketplace?compatibility[]=laptop_12_13th_gen_intel_core in my environment.

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Not sure if it’s going to really be a Framework-specific part, as in, that you can’t use your own battery if you really want to.

Probably a few factors made them package the bare li-ion cell into a plug-in module.

• This is a small li-ion battery. They just don’t do “standard” sizes. Certainly not like cylindrical alkaline batteries, like AAA size. A small 80mAh li-ion could be something like 401030. Which breaks down to 4.0mm thick, 10mm wide, 30mm long. There are essentially infinite sizes. And as long as you are buying enough, there is the option for you to dictate the exact size, and the manufacturer will make it. Major mobile phone companies do this.

• Framework really endeavored to make replacing parts as dead-simple as possible. The typical connectors used inside densely packed devices are tiny, and often fairly delicate where anyone not used to such connectors can easily break latching mechanisms or worse, bend pins shorting them together. There have been a number of posts by users who broke connectors in different ways, or bent pins and came for advice on unbending the tiny needle-like pins. And if it’s the mainboard-side connector, opps, there goes your mainboard! Do not pass “Go”, do not collect $200, go directly to paying hundreds on a new mainboard.

• This is a small li-ion battery, for a device intended for kids. You do not want them handling the raw li-ion cell. Short it, bend it, damage the foil package, and it can go into “thermal runaway” leading to it “venting with flame”. Aka the body of the cell heating up enough to burn you, and flammable gasses generated resulting in a pressurized stream being expelled, which then ignites (shoots a stream of flames). Oh yeah, and the gasses and smoke are highly toxic. Not only do you want to be nowhere near it, but such smoke leaves a toxic residue on everything it touches.

For those that have experience in dealing with raw li-ion cells safely, I imagine we can pry open the plug-in module to access the cell. Half hope the shell isn’t sonically welded, and half hope it is. You can usually crack the welds, but you sometimes deform the shell a little in the process, so that it no longer looks perfect.

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%5B%5D is just [] “url” / “percent-encoded”. https://www.urlencoder.org/
I’m in Firefox on linux. One or the other just percent-encodes certain characters automatically when I copy a url from its address bar. I see [] but it’s sent to the clipboard as %5B%5D, which should work in any browser, I thought??

Does your browser not turn it into []? Which browser & platform?

That DDR5-5600 - 48GB (1 x 48GB) module shows for me when I click your link.

My intention for the above comment is the part “es/en” in the URL. I accessed the site from Spain. I wanted to say the issue and the screenshot I took happened on the Spain/English version of the website. I am also using Firefox on Linux. I was not referring to URL encoding. Sorry for confusing you!

Not sure I fully understand what you are saying.

From the item description: “This item is compatible with Framework Laptop 16, but not Framework Laptop 13.”

Don’t have a 16 but it seems to support the M.2 2230 form factor which the 13 does not. The 12 now only supports M.2 2230. So it is correct that this type of M.2 is compatible with the 12.

I think the FW16 label is just a remnant from the time when the 12 did not exist. Removing or changing it might definitely be clearer for users. Especially when filtering for FW12 components.

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good catch! m.2 2230 parts are compatible with both 12 and 16, we should update them!

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Oh well, I was planning to add a second keyboard and a stylus to my order. Just my luck that these two parts are still MIA.

input cover kit is here : Framework

stylus is here : Framework | Stylus

you can join the mail list for both.

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I have also noticed that iFixit posted guides on how to assemble/disassemble the FW12 and replace some of its components:
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Framework_Laptop_12

They appear to be the same guides as what’s on Framework’s guide site, with some additional ones like removing/replacing the battery.

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Thanks! Somehow I missed the input cover and its email subscription box.

Oh okay. I didn’t know the storage M.2 2230 is for both Laptop 12 and 16! The only label, “Framework Laptop 16” made me wonder why the label is for the storage.

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In case anyone is wondering, buying the DIY FW12 (either processor variant, without SSD/ RAM) is $284 USD cheaper than buying each part individually. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’m almost positive I did those calculations without the price of expansion cards but I might’ve gotten my numbers wrong

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360CAD, so 260.75USD difference here.

I bought my own RAM and SSD, saved lots.

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Planning on doing the same, also buying my own compatible charger.

I already have a 65W charger for my Steam Deck, so all set.

I got a an SB-2130-1TB for my FW12, the same model that I installed in the Steam Deck, and a 32GB SODIMM.

I believe that a 64GB SODIMM is supposed to work, but that isn’t officially supported.

For now I don’t need some FW 12 stuff from the website. I already have an charger. And I ordered 2 TB Crucial SSD. If Amazon is doing there work right this time then I get 48 GB SODIMM from Crucial. They did sent me earlier this week 8 GB DDR4 2400 SODIMM. So, that must I return.

Later I want to order an stylus from Framework.

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KB, DRAM? Please, enlighten me! :grinning_face:

Personally looking forward to the moment this link no longer returns a 403:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Framework+Laptop+12+Disassembly+Complete/187096

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Hey @benstor214,

Yeah, maybe I was a bit too excited and cut some corners while writing my post :slight_smile: I’ll go back and edit it to clarify things, check back the first post in a few minutes :slight_smile: