Please make a computer with dedicated a gpu!

Yes but you can only go so far with a eGPU because of the use of usb-c but in the laptop there are less limitations on more powerful gpus.

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Yeah…you can go farther. Because it’s a desktop-class GPU, unconstrained by power or thermal targets that must be managed by a laptop cooling system. And once TB5 hits, bandwidth constraints will no longer be a hindrance for the foreseeable future.

EDIT: I get what you are saying and I don’t want to come across as unkind but what you ask for is discussed multiple times and has had similar responses every time. @Anachron was right about splitting the community. The Chromebook wasn’t widely heralded as a great step by FW. We understand why it was done but I for one don’t have to like it.

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Because that would create another SKU part that might require another line of products that a small team like Framework has to maintain such as a bigger screen, speakers, touchpad, etc

As for repairable, of a larger size, I am not sure if the Thinkpad P series would be helpful for you in that sense.

That being said, I kinda wish for an option of a Thinkpad like chassis (mix of Magnesium alloy and carbon fibre) rather than the Aluminium body of the Framework, but I guess that’s not going to be possible with a small team like that, considering they are working on Coreboot and improvements.

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I see those are some good benefits and i agree i do not like the Chromebook decision. But how would it split the community? And they could make multiple models.

Really it comes down to this: 1) Can it be stuffed into the current chassis? No, it can’t. 2) Should they make another larger chassis? Yes, down the road i.e. once they can push BIOS updates and handle fixing firmware issues in a timely manner. Most of the complaints you see either here or on reddit, odd behaviors etc are likely related to the BIOS or to firmware on the devices and until they get that squared away a larger chassis option will likely remain a backburner issue. Hell they can’t/won’t get a factory shipped or replacement display with a matte finish…in other words get in line :slight_smile:

At least if they are working on Coreboot that would go a long way to cleaning up their BIOS issues.

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so we both agree but it just needs time right?

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Come on you did not need to say that. I was just putting out my idea (A lot of others want it). You do not need to like it but you don’t need to be passive aggressive jeezz.

If you are talking about multiple product lines, it needs scale too. Framework can’t be compared to like HP/Dell/Lenovo in terms of cost efficiency and product sales (which is why you notice is kinda more pricier)

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@Jieren_Zheng Well i am ecstatic because i really do like what they are doing and can’t wait for the future that lies ahead!

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Exactly I wanted to call attention to it for the creators of frame work because there is a large amount of people that want this If the consumer wants it then why not make people in charge aware of it. You do not need to want it but if others do that does not make it invaded.

Why not simple use a external GPU over the USB-C port?
Antother work arround would be a virtual cloud power machine like shadow cloud PC.

@Bender_Lux then you are paying for a monthly service and don’t own the gpu.:confused:

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I used this service 3 years ago. I didn’t wanted to buy a new PC to be able to play games with a decent frame rate.
I switched over to GeforceNow now to play games online.

Cons of those services is the monthly fee

Pros - you don’t need to upgrade your system to play everything a full game settings.

You don’t have to pay the electricity bill for a high power consuming GPU

In cast of GeforceNow, you don’t need to download any games or update them. Just simply buy it activate it in steam and you are ready to play.

@Bender_Lux also the monthly fee is more expensive then the electricity bill but that can depend

plus latency

+1 for the eGPU—it roughly doubled the cost of my setup, but it was so cheap already compared to alternatives (XPS 13 most notably) that I was okay with that. I also bought during the pandemic, so gpu prices were ludicrous. You’d only go up by about $500 if you were to add an egpu to your setup now with the right power supply and pcie-to-Thunderbolt board or enclosure.

The performance difference is absolute worlds apart. Iris Xe does well for integrated graphics, but it can’t handle much more than retro and indie games. I’ve been running triple-A titles with respectable performance despite having the theoretical worst bottlenecks for an eGPU (i5 cpu, single-channel ram).

I’m of the opinion framework doesn’t need to create a “gaming edition” for brand reasons as well. They’re not trying to disrupt the market of clunky beefy laptops, they’re trying to show that the thin-and-light market cannot use form factor as an excuse for anti-consumer practices, and deviating from the flagship doesn’t really help that.

Caveats: pick your gpu well if you want to use Linux or just wait with the rest of us for dealbreaker issues to be fixed. Also, this is admittedly a more involved solution, but it’s Framework. More involved is the whole point (DIY, self-repair, etc).

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@Paris_A_Doherty
yes but you don’t have to buy every year a top tier GPU to have the best performance. Latency wasn’t really a problem so far.

@Be_Far look at that! A dgpu! :smile:

Woo! Oh yeah! A gpu!

I’ll eat humble pie on this one. I predicted wrong, but boy am I glad I was.

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