I’ve been browsing the guild threads just to see how the batch processing is progressing and I’m seeing a disturbing trend of (bad example deleted) posts that are of interest to anyone who is ordering the machine regardless of Guild. Meanwhile there are general threads about those topics that are lacking that information.
It might be better to only post delivery and processing related info in the Guild threads and start new threads or look for existing threads for any questions about specific non-schedule related topics.
If youre looking for strictly updates, I’d recommend checking this thread on Reddit. I personally update that thread when prep emails go out. I enjoy seeing the community’s reactions in the guild posts here and I share a lot of what is said in them with our team internally.
I enjoy seeing all the reactions in the guild threads as well. I love the idea of the Guild threads for sharing the emotions and expectations about the waiting process.
One common situation I see, though, is that someone posts in a guild thread something related to their ordering and delivery experience (which is great!) and then they also have a general non-guild question so they ask it right there in the same post. And then there is an entire discussion about that common issue buried in that one guild thread.
And then every guild thread will have the same “teething issues” reported and discussed independently and each new guild will repeat those discussions and reinvent that wheel.
So, “I’m getting excited” or “I got my email today” or “I just built it and it was a lot of fun” are great posts to share with just your guild. But “which 3rd party accessories will you use with it” or “how do you install such-and-such OS” and other common questions should be posted in a thread with more visibility - both to get a wider variety of answers and so that the question is then answered for customers in future guilds.
Really, “disturbing”? People talking about their orders and generally being excited, is disturbing to you? It’s really that much reading effort, to simply skip over a bit of random chitchat?
That is some of the most hilarious pearl clutching I’ve ever seen on the internet lol
The guild threads? No.
The excitement in the guild threads? No.
The “I got my email” and “when do you think we’ll see shipments?” kinds of posts? No.
The “let’s discuss this common topic that affects all customers about how to put it together or install something in it within our own guild thread”? That’s the part I think could be handled better.
No. Where do you see me saying that? I love that discussion. I even said that in my second post.
It is absolutely not any effort. In fact, if you read what I wrote you will see that I AM ACTUALLY SEEKING OUT THAT CHITCHAT. I LOVE THAT CHITCHAT! Where do you see me, in any way, saying that people should not be having those types of discussions?
(I implied this in my first post, I stated it explicitly in my second post (a reply), and then I went back and edited my first post to make it even more explicit and up front)
Yes, the conversation you thought you saw would be some pretty hilarious pearl clutching.
But, I never cast any aspersions on the purpose of the guild threads themselves - that association seems to be a misunderstanding…
I see that you edited the title of this thread. I think it is better now as it better reflect your original intent. Most people probably misunderstood what you meant because of the previous title that was a bit misleading.
Respectfully, I think you missed his point entirely. He wasn’t complaining that there is non-order/delivery info in the guild threads that he has to skip over. He was pointing out that there is valuable discussion going on in the guild threads that people are more likely to miss if they’re in one of the other guilds. And he was further observing that when a particular question or issue is addressed in multiple threads, you have a referential integrity issue, where the issue can be updated in one thread and not in another, or updated in multiple threads with different answers. So someone searching for info on a certain topic has more difficulty finding an answer and may find conflicting info when he does.
I thought it was actually quite a valuable suggestion. Honestly, I’m surprised it generated any controversy.
I see what you mean. That’s a fair point! If I see common issues among the threads, I’ll suggest to pull it out of the guilds as others may want to provide insight. Usually the community is pretty good at doing this themselves, but never hurts to suggest since the guilds can be pretty siloed. Thanks for flagging this to me!
@Flar You made a great point about needing to put general discussions in the relevant threads. Also, the tone of the original post and the tone of the original title were not great. But that’s what happens when we communicate - sometimes we’re correct in content but off on the delivery. No harm, no foul! I’m glad you made the point, because the community will be better now that our posts will be in the correct forums (especially that Noctua topic). Also, the next time you do an admonishment post, you could run it through your Framework Desktop’s LLM to make sure the tone is right! haha I’m sure I’ll be doing that for my own communication, LOL
Sorry everyone for not being clear in the first place.
Also, in most forums the mods will occasionally pull discussions out into other threads as needed and leave a “discussion about XYZ moved to (thread link)”. I’ve never seen this forum style before (I do really like it, though!) so I don’t know if that is feasible here.
Thanks Nicolasp, you are correct in that that was the case that prompted me to point this out. I didn’t want to mention it as it might have come across as pointing fingers, especially when it wasn’t the only discussion that I thought could stand to be moved out of a guild thread - but it was an excellent example. I tried to cross link the discussions so that people could find that info.
The discussion, for those who are interested, was about how to 3D print the Noctua side panel. Lots of info on materials that people tried and about online printing services that Framework customers might use, but it was in the Guild 7 thread and people in the original Noctua-panel thread were wanting that info. After I posted that comment in the Guild 7 thread, one of the Guild 7 members who had posted the most useful info about it took to the idea and duplicated the info they shared back in the Noctua thread. Thanks!
And let me be perfectly clear that I don’t really “blame” or think negatively of the forum members that started these “in guild” info threads - I’d likely do the same thing without thinking about it. But, when I noticed it, I thought it was worthwhile to remind people so that we can keep this forum well organized and useful for future customers.
Thanks @catastrophic I’m also hoping that as we see these discussions moving forward, the other forum members will (more kindly and gently than I seem to be capable of) remind and suggest it themselves.
I actually really love it when someone posts that they got it or that they are in their last rush to plan their impending build and they have a million questions and … (“cleanup in Guild 27”) … When else do we get to be kids all over again?
Man, he was just suggesting that threads reflect the topics of their heading. It’s a solid idea and will make life much easier when you’re looking for a specific piece of information at a later point
I’m glad you made the point, because the community will be better now that our posts will be in the correct forums (especially that Noctua topic). Also, the next time you do an admonishment post, you could run it through your Framework Desktop’s LLM to make sure the tone is right! haha 
I’m sure I’ll be doing that for my own communication, LOL