Danish layout looks correct. As @Henrik_Runge suggests, a Framework key would be a great option over the Windows key.
Portuguese keyboard looks good to me.
Would add that AltGr+5 prints the € symbol, but I have never seen a keyboard with the € printed in the “5” key, just the “E” key.
Is there any date of lounch for the ISO pt_PT keyboard?
I’m thinking of buying one 13’ frame.work laptop in Spain, but along with the problem of dispatch from another country, the keyboard is another issue!
Are there any store we can go in Spain?
Is there any list of future country releases?
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What is the size of the individual keys on the Framework 13?
I’d prefer having a pan-Nordic keyboard. I regularly switch between a Norwegian and Swedish layout as a part of my workflow.
As some have mentioned, there is sometimes confusion as to which keys are in your current layout (at least for those that need to look when they type). The usual solution to this problem is colouring the differing keys to indicate the layout they belong to. However, I don’t think it’s necessary, as long as you have a consistent pattern for your keys. So for the §-key you could do Danish on the first column, Norwegian second, and Swedish third. On the umlaut keys, you’d have Danish on the top-row, and then starting on the second row you have Norwegian and then Swedish.
Here’s a very rough sketch for the keys I was talking about:
I think the best solution is to stock all four (each Scandinavian and the pan-Nordic), and when people are specing out their laptop, the default option is the pan-Nordic, but you have the option to switch to one of the other Scandinavian layouts. This means that you could probably stock less of the Scandinavian ones and have a bigger stock of pan-Nordic, resulting in a more efficient use of warehouse storage. This is of course speculation, but my impression is that the people that dislike the pan-Nordic layout are in a minority, and the vast majority are either indifferent or prefer it.
Like the others have mentioned, € is missing from AltGr + 5 and µ from AltGr + M on all the Scandinavian layouts. Otherwise they look good.
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Yes please! I have swedish as a mother tounge and it would be awesome to have a pre built one without having to buy stickers! I would definately order a new Swedish one to replace the current one I have so my keyboard matches all the letters and symbols I type.
So, any update on availability status ?
The Swedish one looks good, when will it be available for purchase or offered as a choice with B.Y.O. or Pre-builts?
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Any day now according to the introduction of the latest FW13 upgrades.
Pre-orders are open now, with shipments starting this August. These are available in all 14 countries we’re currently in, and we’ll be launching in Sweden, Finland, and Denmark this June.
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to have real national keyboard is exactly why I am interested in framwork to have a good laptop with Swedish keyboard. If you want pan-nordic which is just a sad excuss to save money on the back of the customers you can buy a Asus or MSI laptop or a logi one.
I am not so sure most nordic people need more that one keyboardlayout at once.
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I hope it means I will be able to order a framework notebook to Hungary soon. I wanted one for the longest time. Even tough I don’t like the Hungarian layout and will be ordering mine with a us layout keyboard this is the most exciting news for me.
The Swiss keyboard looks perfect (works for both de-CH or fr-CH)!
Apparently Swedish and Danish keyboards have already been announced, after having gone through this review. When can we expect a Swiss one to be released for Framework 16’? I’m looking forward to it!
On the Swedish/Finnish keyboard there is a mix of typefaces, see topic below. Apparently I mistakenly started a whole new topic about this when I should have used this one.
Any thoughts on why this is the case?
I would not recommend using stickers:
Tried Thai stickers twice, but they either won’t stick properly on already used keys due to the skin grease, or they tend to move due to increasing device temperature on a factory new keyboard as well.
Of course, I am unable to asses the stickers’ quality, due to a lack of a frame of reference. The overall experience was far from satisfactory.
You’re right, it depends. I my case I used swiss layout over a german Dell Latitude keyboard, and it worked well, but the keyboard was new. A friend of mine tried the same with the very same sticker set, on an old Dell keyboard, and as you said it didn’t worked well
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Though I also use a Swiss German and not a Swiss French layout, I do prefer having the primary character/key on the left. I have two laptops and three keyboards here at home which all have “öééö” as proposed. So yeah, I understand your point but I think it’s not very inclusive/considerate as I do think it is nice to have that there for our french using neighbors.
Personally I quite like the pan-nordic (or just nordic) and I think its an easy way of reducing keyboard layout redundancy as I don’t know of any situation where the nordic layout would be incompatible with any day to day typing scenario. My current laptop has exactly this layout as well as most of my previous keyboards/laptops and I’ve yet to hear a complaint.
The only thing would be that the paragraph key (§) is a bit cluttered. I personally think omitting some of the duplicates would make the key easier to read even if it would technically break some of the styling meant to convey what layout is what.
I disagree, I think the pan-nordic layout is a pretty reasonable way to increase standardisation across the nordics. Ofc single keyboards would be nice if you want it but I see no good practical reason for it
Personally I am happy that there was local keyboard for Finnish, and not that “pan nordic mess” that some companies use.
But on the “company point of view” pan-nordic keyboard layout would make sense to not have to stock all those specific language keyboards.
Any news on Swiss keyboard?
Maybe Christmas next year? Anything?
It would be great to see some status report, like
- expected by YYYY
- still in review due to abc
- we need more input from community about uvw
- cancelled indefinitely due to xyz
Thanks in advance!