Request: Review of Norwegian, Portuguese, Swedish, Swiss, Slovenian, Thai, Hungarian, and Danish keyboards

So when will we be able to buy a Framework Laptop 13 for my sweet Hungarian American wife with a Hungarian keyboard?

Or, for the time being, can someone advise which blank keyboard (ISO or ANSI) would have the keys in the right place for her that she could mark it and then we can buy the Hungarian keyboard later to replace it?

Murrican’ here, I’m going to be so jealous if y’all get a framework key. I hope you get it though.

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ISO, as most of the european layouts

Morning !

Some questions from Switzerland, unrelated to pending availability in my country :

  • Are you going to offer sticker sets (or blank templates to print layouts ourselves) for [very] rare layouts ?
  • Also, in the same vein, do you plan to offer Dvorak-type layouts (like the French Bépo for example) ?
  • More tricky, will it be possible to manufacture an orthogonal disposition in addition of the ANSI and ISO ones ?
  • For the current 13 and 16 keyboards, are the mechanical switches both the same or do you have differences between them ?
  • Last question : do you, per chance, plan to offer the keyboard as a stand-alone USB/Wireless keyboard for desktop computers ? (Lenovo do that with the Thinkpad keyboard, it would be nice, I think)
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I don’t mean to sound impatient, but more than a year ago feedback on said keyboard was requested, and they’re still yet to be released.

What’s the current timeline on them getting released? Are they ready to be produced? It’s quite frustrating seemingly waiting a year. The last employee response on the tread was in February 2023

I am very interested in that too. The laptop doesn’t have to be officially available in my country, but I would like to have a keyboard in my own language; at least that shouldn’t be a problem for manufacturers. They offer blank keyboards, so why not have the option of engraving letters for an additional price?

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You can have this done by a 3rd party service. Here’s one site offering it Laser engraving of keyboards — Silent Cloud TECH

Danish layout looks correct. As @Henrik_Runge suggests, a Framework key would be a great option over the Windows key.

Portuguese keyboard looks good to me.

Would add that AltGr+5 prints the € symbol, but I have never seen a keyboard with the € printed in the “5” key, just the “E” key.

Is there any date of lounch for the ISO pt_PT keyboard?

I’m thinking of buying one 13’ frame.work laptop in Spain, but along with the problem of dispatch from another country, the keyboard is another issue!

Are there any store we can go in Spain?
Is there any list of future country releases?

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What is the size of the individual keys on the Framework 13?

I’d prefer having a pan-Nordic keyboard. I regularly switch between a Norwegian and Swedish layout as a part of my workflow.

As some have mentioned, there is sometimes confusion as to which keys are in your current layout (at least for those that need to look when they type). The usual solution to this problem is colouring the differing keys to indicate the layout they belong to. However, I don’t think it’s necessary, as long as you have a consistent pattern for your keys. So for the §-key you could do Danish on the first column, Norwegian second, and Swedish third. On the umlaut keys, you’d have Danish on the top-row, and then starting on the second row you have Norwegian and then Swedish.

Here’s a very rough sketch for the keys I was talking about:

I think the best solution is to stock all four (each Scandinavian and the pan-Nordic), and when people are specing out their laptop, the default option is the pan-Nordic, but you have the option to switch to one of the other Scandinavian layouts. This means that you could probably stock less of the Scandinavian ones and have a bigger stock of pan-Nordic, resulting in a more efficient use of warehouse storage. This is of course speculation, but my impression is that the people that dislike the pan-Nordic layout are in a minority, and the vast majority are either indifferent or prefer it.

Like the others have mentioned, € is missing from AltGr + 5 and µ from AltGr + M on all the Scandinavian layouts. Otherwise they look good.

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Yes please! I have swedish as a mother tounge and it would be awesome to have a pre built one without having to buy stickers! I would definately order a new Swedish one to replace the current one I have so my keyboard matches all the letters and symbols I type.

So, any update on availability status ?

The Swedish one looks good, when will it be available for purchase or offered as a choice with B.Y.O. or Pre-builts?

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Any day now according to the introduction of the latest FW13 upgrades.
Pre-orders are open now, with shipments starting this August. These are available in all 14 countries we’re currently in, and we’ll be launching in Sweden, Finland, and Denmark this June.

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to have real national keyboard is exactly why I am interested in framwork to have a good laptop with Swedish keyboard. If you want pan-nordic which is just a sad excuss to save money on the back of the customers you can buy a Asus or MSI laptop or a logi one.
I am not so sure most nordic people need more that one keyboardlayout at once.

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I hope it means I will be able to order a framework notebook to Hungary soon. I wanted one for the longest time. Even tough I don’t like the Hungarian layout and will be ordering mine with a us layout keyboard this is the most exciting news for me.

The Swiss keyboard looks perfect (works for both de-CH or fr-CH)!
Apparently Swedish and Danish keyboards have already been announced, after having gone through this review. When can we expect a Swiss one to be released for Framework 16’? I’m looking forward to it!

On the Swedish/Finnish keyboard there is a mix of typefaces, see topic below. Apparently I mistakenly started a whole new topic about this when I should have used this one.

Any thoughts on why this is the case?