Just ordered a “matte screen protector” from Viascreens. They were out of stock for a while, but it looks like they’re back! And they seem to have great reviews on trustpilot (besides shipping times, which seem to be long heh).
edited because I forgot the word “protector”
If that’s true, why does Lenovo keep releasing laptops with 100% sRGB matte displays?
Just to dissect this “better colors” thing.
Glossy and matte are both coating finishes. It’s not that the screen finishes have ‘better colours’… Assuming the coating has the same transparency rating…light / visible spectrum passes through with the same effect on the visible spectrum.
It’s to do with the perception that glossy screens are ‘sharper’…because anti-glare / AG / matte layer acts as a diffuser.
In terms of colours (for sRGB colour space)…matte screens can produce the same 100% sRGB coverage, with the same low dE as glossy screens.
Reflection wipes out any colours completely anyway…
“Oh you just keep moving your head or the laptop left and right and you’ll see the whole image! Not an issue!”
Hahaha true…
I stand corrected. It is sharper in dark enviorments though!!!
Yes. A matte screen would be a nice to have option in the configurer.
i’d be happy with a factory-fitted matte film option. Doesn’t have to be a different screen P/N. I suspect the fact most companies dont offer this is a telling sign for multiple reasons.
It’s finally been announced! Coming soon!
Matte display! Now orderable.
Notifiable. Not quite orderable yet, but it will be soon, hopefully. (And of course, right after I placed an order with ViaScreens.)
Now that this is going to be a thing, the one thing I do just want to say is that traditional matte coating will become a silly choice if/when OLED or some other display tech with perfect blacks becomes standard as it results in elevated black levels during the day.
The wait is (almost) over just “shut up and take my money”!
So I’m surprised all of you that were so against the idea of a Framework supplied matte screen are not trashing your Frameworks in anger at such heresy…
“How could they break the holy faith of the glossites!”
As if gloss love and matte addiction cannot coexist. I’m partial to my shiny screen, but won’t begrudge folk who’ve waited this long for a matte offering.
@Mad_Alchemist We can’t. Didn’t you also swear the super-secret oath to fight the matte wherever and whenever it might be found? Just me?
Is it possible for glossy screens to use an anti-glare coating like I have on my wristwatch? Watches can have them either on both sides of the glass for extra glare protection, or on the underside only to prevent the coating from being scratched off (most mid-to-high end watches use sapphire crystals which are extremely scratch resistant, so the coating will wear off before the glass is damaged).
I never thought about it with regard to laptop screens (my Dell work laptop is matte, and I bought the matte protector for my Framework immediately), but I wonder how well it would work. My own watch (Sinn 556I) has dual-coating, is extremely legible even in bright daylight, and has not worn off after four years of daily wear far rougher than I’d ever treat my laptop.
Anti-reflection coatings that may not be good enough for a large screen you will stare at for extended periods like a laptop, at least at a reasonable price and at relatively low volumes. Basic single layer AR coating seems to be inexpensive. You can get it on eyeglasses for little added cost. They are even common on lenses for flashlights. But while it reduces the brightness of reflections, they are very much still there. Multi-layer AR is better but it gets more expensive as you add more layers. This is common on high-end professional camera lenses. Backside AR I don’t believe is needed if the top / outer glass is bonded to the screen.
I’m guessing big companies might be able to get better multi-layer AR at acceptable prices by negotiating deals for a large volume of units.
I ordered a matte screen the morning it became available.
Shipping was fast (took less then a week to arrive in Germany).
Replacement, thanks to the well written guide, was quick and easy for me.
Thank you Framework, I find the matte screen makes it so much more pleasant to work with this machine (13 inch, gen12 to be precise).
I really want one of these. Why is it no longer available? I would like to be able to preorder it, or order it for a smaller run at a higher price.
The one of the major competitive advantages of this laptop is literally on feature customization, so fairly surprised that there are only a few options for major features, and not a doubling down with 3rd party vendors for diy add-ons.
What I really want is an oled or e-paper low gloss, high contrast screen ideal for outside at coffeeshops and parks. and willing to pay relatively high prices to get the niche setup I’m after.
Obviously, there’s a dilemma of offering a usual commodity experience around parts that vary in pricing depending on lot sizes. Personally I’d be fully behind a ‘maximum’ price for a preorder group, where the final price comes down based on the group size gathered. doing all true customization as 1-off group buys never to be accessible again just seems like loosing out on the heart of this culture! At least make it seemless to join a group for the next buy, maybe?
Also up for recommendations for a fully DIY solution if anyone has one - even a matte screen is only a step in the right direction for what I’m after.
Just a personal note, heard about this option from Cory Doctorow on his pod, and kinda disappointed that I couldn’t follow up with a buy. Yall might have lost out on a bit of viral marketing!
There was a large amount of users who wanted it as soon as it came in stock, and they bought all the stock. This isn’t a group buy, Framework will restock when their factory is able to get more out. If you sign up now to be notified, you’ll get an email when the matte screen is restocked.
Glossy looks better, matte works better with reflections and glare.
So depending on your preference and environment, one works better than the other.