Didn’t know that was nrp. Good to know then
I’d be curious how the laptop would fair in terms of the clock. I’m assuming that the RTC would not function along with the BIOS settings being impossible to save if the RTC battery was outright removed. Stuff like Windows time being incorrect on boot might become an issue at that point.
It would be nice to get some clarification on that from someone at Framework, or a helpful tester though.
Well, that directly contradicts what someone from the Framework team said in this Reddit post about the 12th gen mainboard.
You options are are, suck it up or sell it (the laptop or the board) and move on.
No one. They are the options for the 11th Gen battery issue. You live with it or sell.
There wont be a fix so…
After umpteen pages I’m just simply distilling down the reality of the situation. Doesn’t have to be directed at anyone.
There wont be a fix, you live with it or move on. Simple as that.
I’m living with it. Others can too.
The thread can be closed really.
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As the song goes “Don’t stop beleeeevin’…”
I’ll leave it there.
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To mitigate this issue, I decided to solder on a larger 65mAh ML2032 battery to replace the original 17mAh ML1220.
I’m happy to report that all is working well so far and the larger battery can sustain the mainboard RTC and BIOS settings in between the weeks when I don’t use the machine.
Link to more details: Review, usage and repair of the Framework laptop - YKM's Corner on the Web
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…and you only have Intel UHD graphics…and not Iris Xe? (single channel RAM)
Worthy tradeoff for my use case 
It’s actually a real good idea. For my use case though, it’s in my 3D-printed enclosure so this wouldn’t work for me.
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The remote battery hack is a great idea – almost something that Framework could / should provide for those whose use case makes this a serious problem!
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I’m pretty disappointed in this. I convinced my (now) wife to get one of these for her work use, which is only occasional, and I’ve had to do the reset 3 times. The procedure is a little more complicated than she’s comfortable with.
If there is no actual fix for this, I am reconsidering buying one for myself. This is really unacceptable. I know Framework is a new company, but asking that that computers be able to turn on is not really setting the bar very high.
I liked the idea of repairability, but if this can’t be repaired, where are we exactly? Will the RTC battery get worse and worse, requiring more frequent resets?
The workaround that I’ve been able to fit into my day-to-day flow is to have a habit of docking / plugging it in once a week, and have a schedule timer to turn on (and off) the USB-PD at scheduled time.
amoun:
These are not really useful suggestions. Suggesting to buy another $1700 laptop to resolve the problem is not going to happen.
And saying “If you intend to leave it for three weeks, don’t” is also not useful. Normal laptops can be left alone for a month and turned on without taking them apart. I need solutions, not obvious but not helpful suggestions.
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@murph, while you may not like them, and I am not suggesting that you need to, those are your options if the device is used infrequently. You can upgrade the main board, or plug the laptop in for a day every couple of weeks. You can set a charge limit on the battery to avoid undue wear on it by keeping it plugged in. Best of luck with things.
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I agree…and that’s what we are left with really.
I was recently told that I’ve been overly negative with my posts…so I’ll stop crapping on it further…and the laptop is what it is. We’re stuck with it.
I’m glad they now have a partnership with Google. Nothing quite like having a business partner who has higher product release standards. (I hope)
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I’m not sure that I would hold up Google as something to emulate. It took me three pixelbooks to get one that worked. It won’t boot if I leave it unused and not plugged in for more than a few weeks (sound familiar?). They haven’t met a product that they aren’t willing to abandon. The list is legion. I’m glad that Framework is working with them and hopefully they can get something out of the collaboration, but let’s not kid ourselves that Google is great shakes. I say this while posting from a Google phone. So I have and will continue to use their products where I see fit, but I know first hand that overall they operate more like an immature child than a wise adult.
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So there’s nothing to be hopeful about?
Well hopefully Framework’s engineers can learn from Google’s, and vice-versa. I would say that I hope that Framework as a company does NOT emulate Google.
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