I’ve been having troubles trying to find a battery that meets the specifications:
Ryzen™** 7040 Series:** Rechargeable 3V Lithium manganese dioxide battery with a Molex 51021-86022 compatible 2-pin connector.
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AMD boards are made to use the main battery as an RTC battery.
Framework has no solution for you. But you’ll apparebtly be able to buy a battery (with leads and connector is unclear) “soon”.
And NGL, I don’t see much if anything for an off the shelf solution with that exact connector.
Might work, (CAN ONLY BUY IN QUANTITIES OF 100, SORRY)but it’s a 51021-022 connector, not sure if that will fit. Would love to see someone from framework clear this up, it’s seemingly hard to find exactly what a 51021-86022 even is or where it is on the mainboard to measure.
Datasheet for 51021 **00
https://www.molex.com/content/dam/molex/molex-dot-com/products/automated/en-us/salesdrawingpdf/510/51021/510210300_sd.pdf
https://www.molex.com/content/dam/molex/molex-dot-com/products/automated/en-us/applicationspecificationspdf/510/51021/510210000-AS-000.pdf?inline
Starting to get confused on what FW means by a 86022 compatible 2 pin, anything with 8 seems to be the full connector.
https://www.molex.com/en-us/products/part-detail/510210800
https://www.molex.com/en-us/products/part-detail/510210200
My guess is it’s the last link, as far as the connector goes. What matters there is it’s a 1.25mm pitch.
https://www.molex.com/content/dam/molex/molex-dot-com/en_us/pdf/datasheets/987651-3691.pdf?inline
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I believe there is marketplace listing for this part, although it is “Coming Soon”: Framework
Looks like a pretty easy diy build if you have the connector
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Where can I find the specification requirement of said 3V battery? Like charging limit voltage, discharge cut-off voltage, charging current, etc. So we can buy and install the correct type of battery without damaging the battery, or worse, the mainboard.
Ryzen™** 7040 Series:** Rechargeable 3V Lithium manganese dioxide battery with a Molex 51021-86022 compatible 2-pin connector.
They say 51021-86022 “compatible” 2 pin. Don’t focus on the 86022 ending, that’s just one particular connector within the series. Probably a typo with an extra 2, and they mean this mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/51021-8602. You can see other Molex “officially” compatible connectors with the 51021 series link on that page. But they are just Molex PicoBlade connectors, I believe most JST 1.25 connectors will fit. They all seem to be based off of Molex PicoBlade.
Next, Framework says a “Rechargeable 3V Lithium manganese dioxide battery” Good luck searching for that. I think they mean Lithium-ion manganese oxide, seems to be the most common rechargeable coin cell chemistry. Looks like “technically” Lithium-ion manganese oxide batteries are manganese dioxide, MnO2, but they commonly call it manganese oxide in the battery name.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_manganese_oxide_battery.
lithium ion manganese oxide battery (LMO) is a lithium-ion cell that uses manganese dioxide
And then, they don’t mention polarity. Though you can see polarity on the FW16 battery in the marketplace frame.work/products/16-rtc-battery-cable. You have to presume they wouldn’t change the polarity between FW13 and 16. That would be terrible. Perhaps it’s just standardized on coin cells? Would be a reason not to mention it.
So overall, I think Framework really needs to fix the AMD battery section. I think it’s kind of a mess.
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Has anyone luck with finding a suitable battery?
I mean something that is proven to be working with the right battery and connector.
I am a normal customer without the equipment to check if the battery is the correct one and is correctly wired. I prefer a solution which does not need such checks and does not damage the mainboard eventually.
Looks like the RTC battery is available now on the market place for a fair price. I can put it in the shopping cart but once I hit the check out button, I get the error:
That’s a little bit ironic, since they do not ship the RTC battery with new laptops in the first place. It would be nice if this restriction could be lifted for laptop owners.
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We might not have this item in stock in the warehouse in your region. If you can share the link of the product and your region/country, I can check it for you. Thanks!
Thank you both, I’ve reported this issue.
Quick update, looks like we do not have this item in stock at the moment, however you can join the waitlist. We will send an email when the item becomes available in the marketplace.
I just checked the marketplace and it seems like it is now available for purchase.
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Yeah I can’t by it in the UK either. More than that my bords won’t even turn on without one it really sucks I’d even pre order one I just want a working system
It’s the same error again for me, I can add it to the shopping cart, but it wont let me check out.
Trying to use it in standalone mode.
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Just to let anyone else know that if you want to use the amd board in standalone mode you will need a RTC battery
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Can confirm.
Same error for just the battery alone.
But if I combine 2 items i get this message which seems to indicate it is available.
And if you order a battery WITH a laptop it is possible.
This seems like it is an issue with the seperate EU warehouse. Because when changing the region to USA you can easily order the Battery standalone. Which is probably because the parts for the US ship straight form taiwan but the parts for EU ship ONLY from the EU warehouse in the Netherlands. (Just assumptions regarding from where the items ship)
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Framework has posted many times that there is a warehouse and order fulfillment center in the US. I’m in the US and my FW13 gen 11 shipped from the east coast a couple states away.
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