Spinning up
Unlike what we’ve seen in the first 2 years, the company seems te be coming out with products way faster than before. They developed and sold out of ethernet expansion cards, launched the Chromebook Edition, partnered with Blue Tide, moved into a new office and probably more behind the scenes! They’re also hiring new people.
Time
We haven’t really seen what time it took between planning and roll-out but if we base ourselves of the Australian release I’d guess Q1 2023? Maybe if we’re lucky they’ll allow pre-ordering in the holiday season, although they would need a lot of stock to do this, so I’m guessing that’s not going to happen.
However, we’re talking like months, maybe one year? - Q1 -Q2 2023 is my presumption.
Thanks for your extensive reply. To be honest, at least some of the elements you cite had turned me more pessimistic than optimistic - like they are just focusing on other stuff rather than on expanding the set of countries (the Chromebook does not even ship to the EU countries where the laptop does!) But anyway, thanks for the detailed list. I guess I will keep my fingers crossed… a bit more, then give up.
Sorry to bring this topic back up but I’m still confused why there is no shipping to any country in the EU, let alone the world? Just adjust the VAT price for each country and shipping cost and send it. Someone mentioned cars but that’s comparing apples to oranges. And again, that doesn’t make it impossible either. If you want a Mercedes delivered to you from Germany to Spain, they will send it to you. Yes it will cost a lot more, but Mercedes won’t stop you from buying their car. And if some service repair had to be done we still have to mail it anyway, there isn’t a Framework store to bring it to. So what is it?
Edit: My only theory is it’s related to limited supply. I guess somehow it saves money on logistics if you focus on shipping to countries with highest demand first? It doesn’t make sense to me, only where to base a warehouse. But since 7 countries in Europe (6 in the EU) can receive Frameworks now, then I’m guessing there aren’t 7 warehouses.
Yep, the problem seems to be undoubtedly the limited supply.
It is to be expected, for a “small” company like FW to not have yet a fluent manufacturing operation as that needs A LOT of money.
That being said, I am growing impatient for the shipment to open up here as well. Personally, I am going to wait until the end of the year/ Q1 2023.
After that, FW will take my money whether they have opened shipment or not…
I got my laptop in Slovenia! But it wasn’t easy, I didn’t want to use a proxy since they mentioned you loose warranty in this case.
So I got a friend, who has a friend that works in Austria to order it for me and brought it to Slovenia when he went home for a visit I guess this is still a valid order that doesn’t break warranty conditions?
In any case I hope I won’t need it and I’m super happy for my new lappy
Still waiting on availability in belgium.
I even willing to tolerate french keyboard and order from france and pay for extra shipment, but not possible.
Why do you guys hate belgian, I mean I get it, belgium sucks, gouvernament and justice system is as corrupt as a 3rd world country and we are beeing bleed dry by taxes, but there are nice people, mainly me, I want to buy a framework laptop and advise them to all my customers and finally bring repairability and upgradeability back
Just found this thread and wanted to ask something:
I’m based in Italy but I’m currently living in France until April, so I was thinking about getting a framework here.
What worries me is the lack of support once I go back to Italy and the impossobility of buying new pieces and upgrades. I do have friends in The Netherlands that could receive and send them to me… So i’m wondering if it would worthy or not lol
Do you guys know if they have mentioned anything about Spain ? I live here and have been wanting to purchase a laptop since the announcement but I haven’t heard anything.
I could use a forwarding service from France but I don’t mind waiting since this would be a secondary computer. But still, would be nice to have an estimate or some official comment on when it’s arriving (if it does) to Spain.
Framework has said that they are working on region expansion, but they haven’t announced which countries. It’s a complicated process for each country with many steps that could cause it to be delayed, so you probably won’t hear even an estimate (or even a yes or no) until they’re ready to launch. Make sure that you’ve registered your interest on the website by selecting your region, as that’s part of how they’re prioritizing regions. It should give you an option to sign up for notifications about your region as well, I believe.
Please note that Framework does not support freight forwarding to unsupported countries as they do not have the authority to sell or ship their products to any countries/regions outside of their officially supported country/region list located here: What countries and regions do you ship to?. If individuals proceed by entering invalid/incorrect billing information, their order will be subject to cancellation/refund, and their payment method may be subject to blacklist. If the order does proceed, they are acknowledging that Framework is not responsible for anything that may happen as a result of not utilizing Framework’s direct shipping to a supported country/region, and that they are fully accountable for any additional costs incurred, or documentation required. Additional information can be found in the Framework Terms of Sale and the Framework Limited Warranty documentation. As discussion of freight forwarding is prohibited, any further discussion of it will be closed and locked.
I saw the video and was pretty hyped. Is there a more accurate timeline available beyond “later this year” or is that all that is known for now? I’m not sure if my current laptop will hang in there much longer lol
You mean rebranded Tongfang and Clevo ones? I have this one and keyboard sucks very bad. I have to mention this because the keyboard doesn’t press on light key tap. Don’t buy those
If somebody says “optomechanical” then run away like you’re running from fire.
This is why I’m in this forum. I want to ditch this keyboard so bad… but FW doesn’t support my country and there are no prospects for now.
Hello, i wish i would be able to order Framework 13 from Slovakia. It looks like Austria got preorders already. I hope it will be soon as my old laptop needs proper replacement.
@Tomas Make sure you register your interest at Framework | Fix Consumer Electronics since the number of people that do so seems to be one of the deciding factors for future expansion.
Other than that, yeah, living a few km from the border of a country that had Framework available for a year already is a bit frustrating. Especially since there is no information about whether Czech Republic and Slovakia are being considered at all.
I understand Framework does not want to announce support too long in advance (delays would just produce disappointed customers), but I wish we could at least get a list of countries sorted into some broad categories (e.g. “NET 2 years”, “NET 5 years”, “probably never”).
I guess this is still a valid order that doesn’t break warranty conditions?
