I need:
- A 15" screen
- AMD processor and/or dedicated gpu.
- Numpad
- Touchscreen
- 2.5" bay.
- Network jack
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It needs to be a 2 in 1 Laptop for me.
So a 360Ā° hinge with Pen/Digitizer and touchscreen support. Until that happens, Iāll have to stick with lenovo.
I really like the project though!
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Im old, I need 15" screen and I want all AMD Ryzen APU. I donāt want to deal with issues on NVIDIA, and I donāt know much about Intel GPU performance. So I want an AMD solution.
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The main thing holding me back is the screen size.
If it had stylus support, Iād be totally on board for the 13", but with no stylus, I prefer 15" anymore. If there was a stylus option on current size, or 15" screen, Iād have already pulled the trigger.
I am kinda in the market for a new machine for myself. My desktop is dead, my main linux laptop is kinda dead (it works, but is very glitchy, bad cursor jitter, and I pulled it out of commission when the battery started swelling), leaving an 8 year old macbook pro as my only daily driver for personal stuff. I am mulling my options. Do I want to get a cheaper system I can game on, and wait for a framework that matches my needs, or do I get the current offering and just deal with the smaller screen.
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- no corboot version; 2. no removable bios chip, soldered on the motherboard.
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For me the main dealbreaker is lack of 360 (2-in-1) option and the (current) lack of full size SD card reader.
Being able to prop my current laptop up next to a monitor in ātentā orientation and use it with a keyboard and mouse without the laptop keyboard getting in the way is really useful, and the occasional need for hand-held use is also a big factor.
As someone who does filming on a digital camera a full-size SD card is a must. Doesnāt need to fully fit the SD card internally, just something so I can transfer files off cards.
While not a total deal breaker, the limited number ports are a bit of a concern. My loadout would be 1x USB-C, 1x-USB A, SD card and HDMI. My current Acer SPIN 5 has 1x USB-C, 3x USB-A, SD card and HDMI. Those extra USB ports are useful to have. If as well as the 4 expansion bays there were 1 or 2 permanent USB-C ports that would leave more expansion bays free for other ports.
Iām personally waiting for 2in1 and shipping to EU.
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Good luck on your quest finding a non-existent mainboard, let alone a laptop.
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What kept me from ordering for about six months was the prospect of buying a Zephyrus G15, which would given me double the performance with its Ryzen 9 and wouldāve blown away the integrated graphics in the Framework. Also, a 144Hz display sounded great.
That was one prospect, but a couple of other ones was a Legion 5 with an all AMD lineup (CPU and GPU). I actually ordered it twice, but the chip shortage or Lenovoās own problems lead to the cancellation of those orders. So Iām here, contemplating a Framework, partly because of luck. The other prospect was the new M1X Macbooks. I liked their power efficiency, battery life, integrated graphics, and the possibility of Asahi Linux.
Finally, the prospect of the whole Framework thing simply not working out was a deterrent.
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I ordered the Framework because I figured putting my money where my mouth is, in this case, is totally worth it. I love the computer. I love its value. I love the project. I want this to work. I want a repairable computer. I want a Marketplace of parts. I want to upgrade my motherboard in a few years. I want an AMD or an otherwise efficient and performant CPU. I want to easily install Linux. I want this company to exist and people to know itās much better than scraping glue out of defective Macbooks or whatever.
Oh, and if I can eventually pay decent prices for an eGPU, then itās a no-brainer for me to get this computer. But even though I used to play non-demanding video games in a 2013 Macbook Pro, itās probably best for me to not get into gaming; I see my friends who are intensely hooked on competitive games (Valorant, LOL, Dota, CS Go, Rocket League), and yeahā¦ Iād like to live my life differently! So maybe not getting the Zephyrus was a dodged bullet? Anyway, FLOSS, Right to Repair, and nice indie games are the way to go for me!
I see this as a bet, for which in the worst case scenario, Framework the company disappears and I end up with an easily-repairable computer.
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The lack of GPU. I am about to buy a new laptop so that I can game when travelling for work. If framework had an option with a GPU, then I would absolutely go with them. I thought about going with an eGPU but donāt want to deal with not being able to use it on flights and the space it would take up in my luggage.
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Whatās holding me back is (1) money, and (2) not having a gaming-focused laptop (yet), so Iāll have to get a Steam Deck console first. But if a gaming laptop were made according to the specifications mentioned in this thread, I would take it instead of a Steam Deck console, or at least before taking a Steam Deck console. Iām 1-3 years away from the next laptop I will buy, in my opinion.
Edit: Another issue is lack of warranty support in Eastern Europe as of right now.
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Money. Thatās literally it, and thatās on my end. I just want a small cheap laptop I can take around for light tasks instead of being tied to my desk. There are things I really want, mainly trackpad buttons and maybe an AMD CPU, and plenty more Iād like to see and try; but with the modular design Iām fully convinced I could compromise for now and upgrade later with minimal cost and waste, returning components to Framework for parts or refurbishing, or reusing them myself.
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I know you guys just started, and need more time to design different types of laptops, but a 2 in 1 option and a pen would be great for many people.
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The fact that I already have a laptop and that Iām going to buy the framework next year!
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Iām still looking for a laptop that can replace my Sager from the year 2011.
Framework looks the most promising, but is not there yet.
My strict requirements are:
16:9 aspect ratio screen. 1920 by 1080 resolution. 4k would be okay but is a waste on a laptop.
Keyboard with a 10 key pad.
Blu-ray drive. (Iām not carrying around an external USB Blu-ray drive because they can fit in a laptop just fine.)
GPU thatās better than integrated graphics. (Nvidia GTX 1660 or better)
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Well Iām in the UK, so thereās that.
Other than that, Iām excited to see a product like the Framework on the market and really I love everything about it, from the 3:2 display down to the QR codes printed inside to make repair easier.
Like a few others have mentioned, Iām interested in holding out for a slightly more powerful CPU revision. Alder Lake, Ryzen, or a decent ARM SoC would all be very interesting.
I know many in the thread are hungry for a dGPU option, which is fine, but Iām in the camp where I specifically donāt want NVIDIA. Iāve had to deal with the headache of their drivers one too many times for my lifetime. So I certainly hope that iGPU/APU versions will always be available!
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I doubt you will find a Blu-Ray drive today. Yes, they fit in a laptop, but the demand is niche and the laptop needs to be thicc for that.
Moreover, 16:10 is the new market standard pretty much. People are preferring taller aspect ratios or ultrawide monitors. 16:9 is moving to redundancy.
I agree with a 10 key numpad and a dGPU tho.
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@Nexustastic I think the last laptop I saw for sale that met my requirements was back in 2017. My laptop was still running fine and keeping up with the new ones, so I didnāt buy a new one. Now itās not doing so great.
You say thicc as if itās such a bad thing. With the ability to change out components, Framework would do well to offer a chassis that is big enough to fit a better cooling solution and a 10 key pad. Even if Iām the only one that actually puts an optical drive in it, Iām sure others would be stuffing things I donāt care about in the extra space.
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Not sold in Israel yet. Also, Iām waiting to see an AMD version including a discrete graphic card. Also, not the most critical thing, but Windows Hello support would be a huge plus.
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Really hoping it expands globally soon, (although I see why they canāt logistically).
Easy buy for me in India.
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