Hi framework team!
Why your team not created TKL (tenkeyless) layout keyboard yet?
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I’m not sure what you mean. By default it is tenkeyless, you have to opt-in for the numpad, which is a modular addon.
What I mean is how the direction keys are placed and the special keys (page up, page down, insert, delete, home and end) are placed where they belong.
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My assumption would be finite space and connection alignment.
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if I understand @Aibek_Q correctly he basically wants a module like the numpad, but instead of numbers he wants the special keys on the right side of a traditional 80% TKL keyboard.
…Right?
As to why Framwork hasn’t made one yet: I guess demand for the numpad is way higher than for the special keys module.
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Yes, you almost got it right @Schuasda
There are keyboard layouts commonly referred to as TKL. Key location to be as in the picture.
On this layout, typing and typing is very convenient for those who use special keys (page up, page down, delete, insert, home, end).
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You can just use the macropad.
Creating modules costs money and effort, stocking additional items also has costs associated, and Framework is currently a small company. Without a large demand / potential sales, it’s not a good choice. Especially when the macropad can already serve this purpose.
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Not having a TKL layout is a deal breaker for me, as I was hoping this will get implemented.
When writing text, coding etc my fingers automatically go to the Del, Ins, Home, End, PgUp, PgDown along the proper Arrow and Shift/Ctrl keys. For this reason I have bought and external Logitech 915 TKL for use with Laptops (costing ~200$), cause I cant stand their awful & non-standard layouts.
Please please please bring a TKL option!
BTW, there’s another 2 threads for this request:
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If is it to hard make a new TKL keyboard layout, may be framework team can create new numpad layout like this?
Sorry, I am not a designer.
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In theory, the community can also make these modules.
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For now I plan to use the clear macropad with this layout. I skipped arrows as I plan to map Fn+wasd and Fn+hjkl as suggested in Full arrow keys on 16 inch keyboard. Also not sure what I’d do with the extra 8 buttons after removing the 12 numpad buttons and adding 4 arrow keys.
Will have to buy the transparent blue stickers from KeyOverlay Modifier & Function keys and KeyOverlay Punctuation, Mathematical Characters and Numbers I guess, unless someone else knows where I can get transparent black stickers. I found 4Keyboard blank stickers onto which I could print my own black legends, but I do not know whether to get size 11x13 or 14x14. I want a transparent background so that the backlight still shows key labels at night. Blue is pretty ugly on the RGB imo, but I guess I care most about function.
I’d be even more interested in a halfwidth macropad as discussed in Macropad small input module, but I feel like that’s not so likely to actually happen.
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You can just use the macropad.
You’d end up with twice as many cursor keys (as part of the regular keyboard layout + below the navigation keys). And because of the lack of gaps, you’d need your eyes to find the keys.
The big advantage of the TKL layout is that it is ~completely equivalent to a regular keyboard. Apart from the (gaming) laptop HP OMEN, which only has a badly modified TKL version, this would be another USP for Frameworks.
In theory, the community can also make these modules.
Interested! 
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You could remove your unused macropad keycaps to add gaps.
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I found this thread while trying to find a laptop with a TKL keyboard layout. Most developers use home, end, del, the page buttons, and the arrow keys near constantly so I find the way most laptops mangle these keys to be completely unusable. There is a market for this type of laptop but no one makes one.
Also it would definitely fit since my TKL keyboard is narrower than a 15" laptop. There is no real reason a laptop couldn’t be made with this exact key-for-key layout, but it just hasn’t been. The HP Omen is pretty close but they molested the home key section and completely moved the delete key so it’s again unusable to me. I can’t bring myself to spend a bunch of money on a frustration factory so I guess I just shop on until someone makes one right.
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It would be nice indeed, to have such a module as an option…
I got my 16" with the numberpad but swapped that for plain spacers instead, because it differed so much from what I have on my private Legion, especially with having page up/down on the corner of the keyboard…
(The Legion has a pretty good arrangement for the arrow keys as well, but I can see how that wouldn’t work with the modular design of the Framework)
I actually have a different complaint: I notice I mistype because keys on my keyboard are slightly off compared to a full size keyboard
I’d like a wider keyboard module that doesn’t use spacers and takes up the whole space
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My wish is similar to this, i don’t like the keyboard being offset to the side compared to the display and wish I could forgo the numpad and have a blank or something on each side half the width of the current numpad the same way the touchpad can be centered.
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You can put spacers on both sides, does that not center it?
For me I also feel I don’t bottom out the keys every time so they don’t always register
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I have an HP OMEN 16-wf, and it has an almost perfect TKL keyboard. It is the sole reason I bought it over other laptops. I was looking for a gaming laptop mainly for work (I am a developer and I use the arrows & HOME/END/PGUP/PGDN/INS/DEL blindly) and occasional gaming.
The geniuses at HP indeed managed to screw it up! On my model, they swapped the DEL and the PAUSE keys! Who thought of that?
The keys swap is easily solvable though, on Windows at least, using MS Power Toys and the Keyboard Manager applet.
On Linux I guess there should be a way to do it, but I use WSL these days, my Linux installation is catching dust…
It would be a great opportunity for the Framework 16 to fill this niche market, but they are just ignoring our pleas…