Swollen Battery on Framework 13 After 8 Months — Refused Warranty

I never had high expectations for Framework. I didn’t buy into the marketing about “modularity” or “repairability.” I didn’t want this laptop in the first place—my company issued it. I knew Framework’s reputation was overhyped: a loud community echo chamber praising a product whose main feature is its marketing narrative, not actual quality. But what I didn’t expect, even as a skeptic, was for the hardware to become a literal safety hazard within the first 8 months.

The battery in my Framework 13 swelled so badly that it physically split open the chassis near the trackpad. The entire keyboard is bulging outwards. It’s unusable, unsafe, and sits on my desk as a swelling fire hazard. This is not just inconvenient. It is dangerous. It is completely unacceptable.

I contacted Framework support with detailed photos showing the deformation, and they still refused to replace the battery under warranty. Their excuse? I have to physically remove the battery to qualify for a warranty replacement. That is absurd. Framework demands the use of their proprietary screwdriver, another needless restriction that contradicts their entire “repairable” branding. I don’t have that tool, and my IT department is the only one with access to it, and that office is hours away.

To add insult to injury, they dismissed the issue as “customer-induced damage” without a shred of evidence, despite me following every usage guideline and keeping the machine in pristine condition. In reality, this is a clear sign of substandard component sourcing and lack of quality control. A lithium-ion battery does not swell under normal, safe usage in under a year unless something was wrong from the start.

This isn’t just about bad support it’s about recklessness. Framework is knowingly stonewalling safety-critical repairs. A swollen battery is an extreme fire hazard, and Framework’s refusal to replace it without arbitrary barriers is unconscionable. Their behavior borders on negligence.

System Performance: Just Plain Bad

The swollen battery isn’t even the only issue. The laptop, despite being relatively high-spec’d with an Intel i7 processor, can’t handle basic productivity tasks without lagging when connected to two Full HD monitors. The OS stutters. Window switching hangs. It heats up rapidly, and the fan blares. This is a clear failure of thermal management, and no amount of modularity fluff can cover for a thermally throttled machine.

Framework’s entire pitch is built around a fantasy of modularity, but in practice, it’s mostly irrelevant gimmicks. You can move a few ports around, so what? The core components—CPU, GPU, battery, thermal design are fixed, flawed, and nowhere near the premium quality the price and community buzz would suggest. You’re left with a hot, lagging, unsafe machine that fails at being a laptop in the most basic sense.

Legal Perspective: Really Bad

My state of Indiana has clear laws protecting consumers from precisely this sort of corporate behavior. Under Indiana Code 26-1-2-314, there is an implied warranty of merchantability. This means a product must be fit for its ordinary purpose. A laptop battery that swells under warranty, warping the chassis and endangering the user’s property, clearly violates this law.

Framework collected Indiana sales tax when this device was purchased, and is therefore subject to these laws. Their refusal to replace the defective battery is not only unethical, it may be illegal.

Framework has built a brand on empty promises and breathless marketing, but they can’t market their way out of this. A company that won’t stand by its product when it puts its users at risk does not deserve praise, it deserves scrutiny.

My advice is to stay clear of this company if you have the choice, some of us are not so lucky.

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Proprietary screwdriver?!

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This is not true. The screwdriver is an addition for convenience and completely standard. You can go down to your nearest hardware store and find the exact bits needed.

Also, if this is a company issued laptop, you need to be going through your company/it department for warranty service. That’s probably why they are “denying” you warranty.

I agree Framework’s support is notoriously bad and attempt to avoid warranty help at all costs (personal experience), but there seems to be more to this story.

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First of all: Yes, you are correct.
This should not happen and your battery should be replaced under warranty.
Even if i dont feel like this has to do with QC. FW simply cannot look inside the battery and check for “defects”. I have had devices from other companies with similar issues

Sounds to me like “send us the old battery, you will recieve a new one. Please do not send the whole machine”? Where exactly do they refuse your warranty?

The screws are standard torx screws and not proprietary. I guess support expected you to have the screwdriver and the willingness to use it, since you bought the machine. I guess they did not consider, that you have it from your company.
That being said, i feel like you should contact your company’s support in this case.

Since there are no notebooks with CPU sockets on the market (except maybe some thick desktop replacements), there is only so much FW can do…
The battery is not fixed though…

Hard so say for sure, because i dont know what is installed on your system / what your workload is, but this could be QC related. I have read of other cases on this forum, where the CPU had a bad thermal paste application, causing the system to be slow and loud.

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I can say that FW could definitely stand to use better paste/application technique; before repasting with PTM 7950 my CPU would sometimes hit close to 90C under load. When I finally did the repaste I found a lot of it had flowed out (pump out?) and around the die, although there was still a thin amount on the die. This was a board I had picked up less than a year in at the time.

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I believe FW has actually switched to using Honeywell Phase Change thermal pads now. Not sure exactly when the switch occurred. What model and generation was your laptop?

Model is the AMD Ryzen™ 7 7840U for board. (Yes, I had to copy and paste from the FW page as I’m still bad with AMD naming schemes)

Generation I’m not quite sure how to describe, but it’s mostly running off of the original B-stock components (outside of RAM/board) from when I bought an 11th Gen Intel Core i7.

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Without knowing the details of the exchange, it’s tough to say for sure, but in all likelihood, you would have to remove the battery yourself, one way or another, unless Framework offered on-site service, which they don’t. This is because there are no shipping companies that would knowingly allow you to ship a swelling battery like that. I suppose you could just lie and tell the shipper that there isn’t a damaged, failing battery in the package, but Framework likely would never officially condone something like that. So I can imagine a scenario where you remove the battery and ship the laptop to a repair center without a battery to have a new one installed, or they ship you a battery and you install it yourself. In either case, someone would have to remove the battery on your end.

The driver is a standard Torx bit. As others have mentioned, it is not at all proprietary. It may be less commonly lying around than a Phillips, but it’s not proprietary. And it sounds like your IT department has it, and the issue is simply having to request it from them? Is that right? If so, that part is certainly not Framework’s fault. Especially since they ship one with every machine, as a convenience. If it took a tiny Phillips driver, you’d also have to source one of those, if you didn’t have one lying around.

Don’t get me wrong. I’ve had my own struggles with their support process. Sometimes you have to request escalation and it can sometimes result in quite a few messages back and forth. It can be frustrating. I would reach back out to support to request escalation of the ticket and see what can be worked out. If you are willing to work with them, I would be surprised if they weren’t willing to work with you.

You opened the post by all but saying you were biased against Framework from the start. Is it possible that some of your frustrations are born from that starting point?

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Something isn’t quite right here.

You as the end-user of a company issued device…should reach out to company IT for device support. Your company shouldn’t expect you to service the device, regardless of the repairability marketing / features of a product. i.e. The company can’t just allocate you with more responsibility than what you’ve signed up for, especially when it comes to a fire hazard related matter in this case.

Next, the battery, it sounded like Framework is/was willing to send you a battery replacement (or was aiming in that direction)…and requested you to remove the battery. The inability to remove the battery on your end (again, this should be your IT dept’s job, not yours) kind of renders a new battery useless even if sent. Also, again, strictly speaking, you are the end-user, not necessarily the customer here. The new battery should be sent to your IT dept.

Next, Framework (from my experience) looks at the unit as a whole, not just the battery. Given that you mentioned there’s additional damage “so badly that it physically split open the chassis near the trackpad”, they would also want to assess this, whether it’s just flexed…or permanently bent (damaged). Your current inability to remove the battery is what I think is creating this “customer-induced damage” tag, against the chassis and / or input cover.

You really need to reach out to your IT dept. BigT is also correct on the points he stated.

Get clarity from your IT dept what that support model / protocol is within your organization.

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I’m sorry about this experience Alex. please DM me the email address you used for this support interaction and I’ll investigate what happened. But before diving into that, since we have quite a few people interested in this story, I’d like to clear a few misunderstanding and misconceptions and ask a few questions (to fully understand what’s happening here)

This is not your personal laptop, is that correct? is there any reason you personally contacted the support instead of contacting your company’s IT department? We have a B2B team including B2B support. That might be the right way to deal with this situation.

I don’t think I actually understand this. If a battery is swollen, you need to replace it, it means that you have to remove the battery from the chassis. Are there any limitations stopping you from doing this?

You do not have to use the Framework screwdriver. Also, IT department gave you the laptop but not the screwdriver? It sounds like they don’t want you to repair the device and that is something between your employer and you. But from the technical standpoint, you definitely don’t need the Framework branded screwdriver.

I’m assuming this is related to touchpad, or are you referring to something else?

I’ll be waiting for your DM to investigate this further, thank you.

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I’m not part of the “community echo chamber”–in fact, I get very annoyed at the tone policing here whenever someone criticizes Framework or its products. It’s okay to complain–it helps the company improve. If all we do is sing Framework’s praises, we’ll just be a cult formed around the moral self-righteousness built around right-to-repair.

Anyway, I’d like to ask: were you using the official Framework charger for your laptop? Using a 3rd party charger might cause battery damage, in which case it could very well be user-induced damage. The user also bears some responsibility for keeping the environment cool; I have caused the swelling of a battery in an iPhone SE 1 by routinely charging it in my messenger bag (hiding the iPhone from possible thieves who might walk by my desk).

Also, swollen batteries are by no means unique to Framework. There are two points to be made here: a) some small percentage of all Lithium-based batteries will swell, and b) just because yours swelled doesn’t mean that Framework is sourcing substandard batteries in general.

I have worked in IT for 35 years and have been a certified Thinkpad repair person and also an iPhone/iPad/Macbook repairer, and swollen batteries happen in every possible brand of device I have ever seen, from Microsoft to Samsung to Dell to HP to Google, et al. I have swapped dozens of iPad and iPhone batteries and displays due to swollen batteries, but I would never accuse Apple of making low-quality devices (as much as I hate Apple).

If you really want to get mad about swollen batteries, buy a Microsoft Surface Pro tablet, let the battery swell, and then see what they say to you about it… They offered us a store credit to buy a new Surface Pro and told me to discard the entire Surface Pro!

Anyway, please be fair to Framework about this. Lithium-based batteries are just susceptible to off-gassing. I don’t know what the exact percentage of Framework’s laptop batteries end up swelling, but it is probably in-line with the industry median.

I do agree with you regarding the poor thermals of the higher-specced models, but that seems to be a common problem across all brands of laptops. I suspect it has to do with the relatively high price of copper as a raw material and the shrinkflation of heatpipes and heatsinks. I intentionally bought the lowest-end Framework 13 in its generation in part to avoid the thermal issues, but even then it gets pretty hot sometimes and the fan sounds like a jet engine. Hopefully they’ll fix that someday.

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3rd party charger is recommended as long as it has passed all needed regulatory testing for your region.

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I 100% agree with that, as long as community members don’t violate the community guidelines and share constructive feedback, it is welcomed and encouraged. I am the person gathering the feedback and sharing with the internal teams and can definitely confirm that it helps us improve. And we are lucky to have such a vocal community here!

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OP hasn’t DM’ed me yet, no updates as of now. I also manually checked the support tickets we have received recently for laptops with swollen batteries but couldn’t find their case. While double checking their post, I noticed the em-dash and honestly concerned if the OP is not a real customer and someone created this post using AI :confused: Hope that’s not the case and OP used AI only for grammar checking or they are just a good old em dash fan.

Will keep this post updated if I hear anything from OP.

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Agreed.

I was referring to low-quality 3rd party chargers, of which there are a surprising number sold, even under supposedly good brand names. I’ve got a RAVPower 61W charger that creates a visible spark every time I plug it in (I don’t use it for anything now but a Pinecil soldering iron, and it even malfunctions with that occasionally). At the time I bought it, RAVPower was considered good/safe.

I just checked it now, and it does not have UL markings on it. I should never have bought it, but it had good reviews. (Later, Amazon banned RAVPower for review manipulation.) Good thing I figured out it was bad early on (with my Macbook, that survived).

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Awesome catch. I don’t think you can insert those directly. Or at least I don’t know how.

This kind of bs statement is straight out of the pre usb pd dark ages and wasn’t even true back then, the “charger” (the part that actually charges the battery) is part of the laptop and responsibility of the laptop manufacturer. If an external power supply manages to cause the laptop to damage the battery (outside of sending just straight 240v to the laptop or something dumb like that that also causes a ton of other damage) that is still a flaw in the laptop.

That is pretty much the worst place to use a badly insulated power supply, unless you only use it to join random wires with no components at the end. A finished device should have some protections but while soldering components a badly insulated power supply can fry them as you solder them on.

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I get what you’re saying, but it is not reasonable to expect a charging circuit inside the laptop to have perfect protection against all external power problems.

You strawman about the 240V, but a visible spark is in fact a high voltage–high enough to jump an airgap. You would then agree that a visible spark (3000V per millimeter of airgap, well exceeding your quoted 240V) would get through whatever internal protection circuitry is inside the laptop to where it could damage the battery.

If you expect the protection circuitry to be able to handle all possible voltages and noise, it will likely be too large and too expensive to fit within an ultrabook format.

ALSO, you are forgetting the possibility that the external power supply might damage the charging/protection circuitry inside the laptop such that the charging circuit cannot properly charge the battery. It may appear to work but not work well enough to prevent it from overcharging the battery and causing swelling. Put another way, the damage to the battery does not have to come from the bad power supply directly through the protection circuitry to the battery.

For example, let’s say the thermal sensor portion of the charging circuit is damaged permanently by a one-time surge through a crappy 3rd party external power supply, so the charging circuity is not able to detect that the battery is too hot. Every day after that, even while using a high-quality external power supply, the internal charging circuit overheats the battery by a little bit over the battery’s rated max temperature. Of course, this will swell the battery.

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You may be misunderstanding my point there. The point isn’t that a power supply can’t damage stuff but that it wouldn’t damage just the battery if it was faulty.

A single short spark should get caught by esd protection in a well enough designed product but esd protection can wear out so should still be avoided. Sending straight 240v is something else, that is continuous and will mess up stuff quite hard. Fortunately making power supplies that don’t do that got cheap enough that the really bad ones got kind of rare these days.

Nobody said anything about handling all possible voltages and noise can (even if it really should not) damage a lot of stuff but the battery is very low on that list.

Anyway I am glad the age of everyone having their proprietary power supplies is over.

That is definitely the laptops responsibility. If the power supply blows up enough stuff to punch through the charging cirquitry stuff is really massed up and pretty much the whole laptop is fried at that point.

Edit: actually the not overchargin bit is the lapotp and the battiers responsibility, stuff would have to reeeeeally go wrong for that to happen. That spark would somehow have to blow up the charging cirquitry and the batteries bms in a way that still lets it charge at all and also doesn’t cause enough other faults to shunt that power somewhere else. The bms on any semi modern laptop battery will kill itself (and completely disconnect) and the battery long before it can get overcharged.

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Exactly. Always solder with a insulated and grounded power supply

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