Windows logo on the keyboard

I couldn’t help but notice that while you had to create the whole new keyboard for Framework Laptop 16, you still use the old Windows 10 logo on the keyboard even though the only officially supported Windows is 11. Why not use more modern Windows 11 logo? It even looks so neutral that you could use it as a Super key on Linux and not think of it as of a logo. Therefore not needing to create a separate Linux keyboard.

Old Windows 10 logo:

New Windows 11 logo:

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P.S. And why there is a dedicated airplane mode button on the keyboard in the era of always connected PCs and laptops (I bet Framework even supports modern standby)? I really hate those since it’s very frustrating when I accidentally press them on such keyboards (happens a lot on HP). Is it possible to turn off this button’s action in software (maybe firmware) without switching to F1-F12 mode?

There are ways to disable airplane mode entirely if you are that bothered by the button being there which effectively just turns that button into only an F# key. As for the logo who knows. My guess is they wanted to keep as much from the Framework 13 as possible to simplify things. Maybe their surveys showed people liked the slanted Windows logo. Maybe that is just the style their selected keyboard vendor uses by default. I cannot say I have ever noticed what the windows key on my laptop looked like before this post.

I wish there wasn’t any windows logo at all. Even having the word “super” was a missed opportunity. Too bad. Linux penguin, or framework logo, or any other generic symbol beats the windows logo or a word on that key any day.

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I appreciate the inoffensive design System76 uses:

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I’d love no windows logo on the keyboard.

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There is the “International English - Linux” option for the FW16 keyboard.

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It’s worth noting this post here that has had significant discussion in the past.

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these type of nitpicky things will be the death of this company

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Is that the GALP5? Looks exactly like mine. That symbol signifies PopOS/Gnome Activity Overview, so not fully neutral (probably won’t make sense for Windows and KDE users). May be confusing to other people.

I think the Windows logo isn’t all that confusing since most users are Windows users and will recognize it as the Start key. For Linux users, we already know it’s the Super key. The Win 11 logo looks more generic than previous logos.

Not sure how Microsoft can copyright 4 squares in straight 90 degree angles, lol. They could have made a case if it was angled like Win 10 (angled in a specific way).

Or do like keyboard makers do an include different key caps (one blank one for ppl to customize) :slight_smile:

If it really bothers me (which it doesn’t), I’ll just put a sticker over it with whatever logo I want on it, lol.

But Windows 11 logo doesn’t bother me much - even though I use Fedora.

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Yeah, one can dream:

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Yes, it will be. Framework-16 keyboards will run QMK, and in QMK it’s possible to reconfigure keys to do almost anything you can imagine.

It’s not about whether you can remember what the key does.
It’s about who’s in control.

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If that is the case, you have control to find a solution. As someone said, requests like these probably isn’t feasible for a small company like Framework yet. Perhaps whatever company that makes these keyboards are willing to sell custom key caps themselves (and they feel there’s a market and is profitable).

My other worry is that if Framework ever become big enough to offer way more choices (Oculink expansion bay, and other expansion bays people ask for, AMD, Intel, nVidia, different screens, trackpads, keyboards, key caps, etc), a) that negates t he community and other 3rd party market, and b) they will become a completely different company than today (eg: may become a big Dell/HP like corporation)…

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What I don’t get is why they don’t just drop the OS-specific designs and make it a Framework logo

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I completely agree here.

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As always, experiences vary - I make heavy use of this to save battery when travelling.

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To my understanding its in rhe OEM agreement for windows, if it ships with windows it needs the windows key.

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