Launching the 16" model in Q4 will consume a significant amount of Framework’s resources, especially considering the larger number of buyers and the considerable media attention it has garnered.
This probably means that Framework will have a substantial workload with the 16" model and updates for the 13" AMD model may not receive top priority. They might end up being similar to the 12th Intel BIOS update, which has been expected for quite some time.
Good thorough review from Notebookcheck. 12.1 hours battery life on their standard WiFi test. Thermals and fan noise on the high side, comparable, if not higher than the Intel 13th gen - slightly disappointing, but potentially solvable by lowering the tdp.
You make some interesting points, but…
Youtube Review: Matthew Moniz
I agree with this. The boards may share some common parts that may help both products to get better over time as an improvement in one affects the other.
“One omission on a laptop that costs this much is a webcam that supports Windows Hello. The webcam is a decent-quality camera with 1080p capture, but it can’t be used for biometric confirmations.”
I actually didn’t know that (I always leave it off anyways). This is actually a “plus” in my book!
Reviews so far seem to paint an inconsistent picture re: Intel comparisons… Wonder if that is somehow reviewer bias or per-unit differences?
I’d prefer it if the SKUs were fairly close in performance, otherwise one camp is going to feel cheated.
Yeah, there are results that say it’s better, even or worse than Intel in performance as well as battery life. I wonder what that’s about
Same with noise. I’ve read it is both quieter and a bit louder at full tilt.
Similarly confused by the reviews as some others in this thread - Ars technica found it to have worse battery life than the intel version here ( Review: Framework Laptop finally gets an AMD Ryzen config—and it’s pretty good | Ars Technica ) while Just Josh on Youtube found it to completely obliterate intel and even rival the Apple Macbook Pro 14 when it comes to power use under load ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwr14Q4C9gY ).
A great showing nonetheless! Now to see if Intel’s Meteor lake will take the efficiency crown as it is purported to 
This one I like!
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Is there a comparison of both AMD versions side by side yet?
Looks like all the reviewers only got the 7840U model
None that I’ve seen; it would help someone decide who may be on the fence re: which processor to get, so I imagine it will be done at some point.
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I’m glad they did it that way. That should help to normalize the early third party testing results as much as possible. Given the discrepancies so far, adding in other variables would have muddied the water even more.
After reading a few, it’s so weird how mixed these are.
One will say “battery life is much better than the Intel”
Then the next one shows it worse than Intel.
I also saw mixed ones about performance, one showing Intel was better mostly and then amd mostly better.
Wonder why there is so much variation
I’m also wondering this… I don’t think it’s a thermal problem as that doesn’t explain the battery life.
Might be differences in testing methodology, e.g. Windows power states not properly configured.
Different testing methodology and potentially, placing the USB A ports on the back ports (leading to higher power draw). Notebook check did their wifi test while other reviewers use pcmark10 or a video playback loop.
I wonder how many got boards only and threw it in their old-battery systems, and how many got fresh systems